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Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
Caldwell says in his book on JG 26 that III. Gruppe had replaced its G-6s with G-14s by September 27, 1944. Did they have G-14s on hand before that date?
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
Luke,
The first 14 Bf 109 G-14 received by III./JG 26 were delivered in September 1944 indeed; at that time the unit still retains 10 Bf 109 G-6's. Source:http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biiijg26.html III./JG 26 still had four Bf 109 G-6's in October 1944. The first combat loss of a newly arrived Bf 109 G-14 for III./JG 26 occurred 12 October 1944: Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 461 538 "Blaue 8" with Ofhr. Hans-Theobald Thüring at the controls was shot down by P 51 D's from 357th FG over Bremervörde, OFhr. Thüring KIA. Source: Caldwell, JG 26 War Diary II, p. 367. Cheers Marc Last edited by Marc-André Haldimann; 20th August 2021 at 11:34. |
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
Thanks! Do we happen to know the exact date those G-14s were delivered?
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
On 25 Sept 44 Stab III/JG 26 lost a Bf109G-14 WNr 780851 negar Arnheim Due to combat with a Spitfire. Pilot Uffz Hermann FSA/MIA . Source Balss vol. 36
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
That is outdated info unfortunately.
WNr. 780851 was a G-6 and flown by Fhj.-Fw. Joachim Zeller and Wnr. 165170 was a G-6 flown by Uffz. Hermann Ayerle. (sources: Caldwell, JG26 War Diary, II, page 356; J. Manrho) |
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
Regensburg starter to built G-14 on 166xxx and 167xxx range before the 780xxx on words. There info was updated on several publications 10 years after Caldwell.source Kagero and Japo.
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
Prien vol13/IV page 17. Was another good source.
Eduardo. |
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
Ok, so if I'm reading things right, III./JG 26 had G-14s as early as 25 September?
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
I’m afraid, yes.
Eduardo. |
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Re: Bf 109 G-14 introduction in JG 26
On 21 Sep 44 9/JG 26 lost a Bf 109 G-14 WNr 780912 ws2+ I 100% Due to dogfight with a P-47 near Groesbeek killing Obfhr Günther Patzke. Source Prien JFV vol 13/V page 231.
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