162nd TRS F-6D Serial 44-14??? IX * P (or B, R)

[Roger Gaemperle]

Thank you Revi16. You nailed it regarding the "noseart".

So, the only clues are 44-14??? and code IX * P (or B, R)

Alex, it seems it was first with the 162nd TRS and later 364FG if the sources can be trusted. But it was not the aircraft in the photo as that one was still marked 'IX'.

[Peter Randall]

Alex, Joe has his wires crossed somehow on this one! The landing accident on 5th January 1945 at A-95 was 42-103396 with pilot Henry A Veillette. 44-14073 was with 364FG from start to finish, having been gained on 23rd July 1944 and lost on 1st June 1945, when pilot Edward Chlevin bailed out following a mid-air collision. I really don't understand where Joe Baugher got his incorrect information from!

[Revi16]

The OP's photo seems to show an aircraft in Long Term Storage, taped over exhaust manifolds, taped over canopy seams, Do Not Turn on the prop. All common items for aircraft storage.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Peter Randall

44-14073 was with 364FG from start to finish, having been gained on 23rd July 1944 and lost on 1st June 1945, when pilot Edward Chlevin bailed out following a mid-air collision.

Peter

So never converted with cameras then?
Was possibly the mid-air collision with 44-15005 and Edward Hausenbauer?

Cheers
Stig

[Stig Jarlevik]

Originally Posted by Peter Randall

Alex, Joe has his wires crossed somehow on this one! The landing accident on 5th January 1945 at A-95 was 42-103396 with pilot Henry A Veillette. 44-14073 was with 364FG from start to finish. I really don't understand where Joe Baugher got his incorrect information from!

I can see why, if the crash sites are OK
On the same date, 5 Jan 1945, there was a second landing accident at the same place with another pilot,
also from 111 TRS, Robert A Perry in F-6C 44-14703

Cheers
Stig

[Alex Smart]

Thanks Stig, I had seen "703" but went with JB's detail instead, he is not wrong very often.
Alex

[edwest2]

North American P-51D-10-NA Mustang/44-14703

• Converted to F-6D.
• 1945: USAAF 162nd TRS.
• 1952: USAF 45th TRS (67th TRW).
• 3/2/1952: Crashed while landing in Korea.

Source: http://www.forgottenprops.warbirdsre...1-4415000.html

[Peter Randall]

Obviously a typo somewhere down the line as I took Alex's 44-14307. There was indeed the second landing accident at the same place on the same day with Robert Perry in 44-14703. At the time, it seems to have been coded C3-B with 162TRS.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Hi Peter

Can you check the mid-air on 1 June 1945 please?
Which was the other aircraft involved?
I think it was 44-15005 but I would like to be sure.

Cheers
Stig

[Peter Randall]

Yes Stig, it was 44-15005 with Edward P Hausenbauer at the controls Cat 3 so obviously landed it. N2-Xbar 'Dream Boat' and assigned to Charles E Hammett. Salvaged on 21st September 1945 but I think that will be a generic date.