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Old 22nd April 2011, 09:37
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Experte Clausen (132) –his final Fw 190A?

According to Joe Bauer (http://germanaircraftwwii.devhub.com/blog/520986-focke-wulf-fw-190-part-iii/), only two Fw 190A-5/U12s with twin 20/MG 151 gondolas (making a total of 6 20mm) were produced (W.Nrs. 150813 and 150814). However, according to Clausen’s online biography (http://www.luftwaffe.cz/clausen.html) , “On 4 October 1943 he shot down B-24 Liberator but then he was killed in aerial combat over the North Sea attacking Allied four-engined bombers in Fw 190 A-5/U12 Y (WNr 7358)” Note that the Werk No. does not match up as an A-5/U-12; what type of Fw-190A was Clausen flying when he met his demise? Were the A-5/U-12s combat tested and if so, with what unit?

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Old 22nd April 2011, 11:00
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Re: Experte Clausen (132) –his final Fw 190A?

Hi,

III./J.G. 2 operated a total of nine FW 190 A-5/U12s between June and August 1943, and 10./J.G. 2 had a single FW 190 A-5/U12 on strength in July and August 1943.


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Old 22nd April 2011, 16:00
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Experte Clausen (132) – his final Fw 190A?

Hi Rob

There certainly were more than two Fw 190 A-5/U12 fighters operational and here are some of the losses of this type for I./JG 11 sourced from Prien, including that flown by Clausen. I beleive that the information that there were only a pair built as prototypes is based on Warplanes of the Third Reich by Green which although a groundbreaking work for its time is now outdated in various regards.

27 September 1943: Oberleutnant Erich Kuhnla of 3./JG 11 missing in Fw 190 A-5/U12 "Yellow 2" (W.Nr. 710 015) following aerial combat, crashed over sea, 35 kilometers north of Langeoog, 100%

4 October 1943: Hauptmann Erwin Clausen, Gruppenkommandeur of I./JG 11, killed in Fw 190 A-5/U12 "Black <<" (W.Nr. 0157 358) in aerial combat 115 kilometers northwest of Borkum, 100%

4 October 1943: Oberleutnant Heinz Sahnwaldt, Staffelkapitän of 1./JG 11, killed in Fw 190 A-5/U12 "White 13" (W.Nr. 410 239) in aerial combat 30 kilometers north of Juist, 100%

8 October 1943: Leutant Erich Hondt, Staffelkapitän of 2./JG 11, wounded in Fw 190 A-5/U12 "Black 13" (W.Nr. 410 266) in aerial combat, crashed at Winschoten, bailed out, 100%

5 November 1943: Unteroffizier Eduard Kienle of 1./JG 11 wounded in Fw 190 A-5/U12 (W.Nr. 0150 814) in aerial combat over Rheine, 100%

I hope this helps.

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Old 22nd April 2011, 22:18
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Re: Experte Clausen (132) –his final Fw 190A?

Thanks -both of you!

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Re: Experte Clausen (132) –his final Fw 190A?

Leo,
Would you be so kind to let me know from which Prien's book comes this info? Are there any photos included with it too?
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Old 24th March 2017, 20:12
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Experte Clausen (132) – his final Fw 190A?

Hi Milos

The above was sourced from Jagdgeschwader 1 und 11 by Prien and Rodeike. There are a total of three volumes in this series, Teil 1 which covers the period 1939-1943, Teil 2 which covers 1944 and Teil 3 which covers 1944 and 1945. Extensive photographs are included as well. I hope this helps.

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Old 25th March 2017, 04:33
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Re: Experte Clausen (132) –his final Fw 190A?

Hello Leo
It for sure help. I have the books back in Serbia. I thought some other book mentions these machines and maybe you got the info there (something like Die Jagdfliegerverbände or similar, that I own only few volumes).
Anyhow, thanks for the confirmation.
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