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Old 8th August 2011, 18:50
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

Loos states in his Flugbuch 4 claims of russian fighters. 2x 24.4.1945, 1x 25.4.1945 and 1x 30.4.1945. All in Ta 152 "4"
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Any info from Soviet sources?
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

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Loos states in his Flugbuch 4 claims of russian fighters. 2x 24.4.1945, 1x 25.4.1945 and 1x 30.4.1945. All in Ta 152 "4"
..his 'Flugbuch' ? ..or the 'doctored', re-constituted, patched-up photocopied version floating around ? probably not to be relied upon....

Loos also 'witnessed' a number of Dahl's victories in late 1944-early 1945 ..a good month or two after he left JG 300
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

Neil, I did not have it in hands, but the last page I have is a color photo of what seems original paper. I have it from source, who personally knew Loos, and received his LW uniform as well.
So no photocopy definitelly. Dunno if Loos faked his Flugbuch postwar...cannot judge that.
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

Hi Peter,

no I doubt Loos bothered 'faking' his Flugbuch post-war..

but someone - probably not Loos himself - has 'created' a version of the Loos Flugbuch from photo copies and then taped the photos together to create a contiguous document, although it looks as though a new page has been pasted over the top of an old one which covers this late-war period. Could be completely innocent for all I know...

Is your image the 'good' copy showing Page 52 all flights from 861 to 876..?

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Old 9th August 2011, 18:35
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

Hi Neil,

Yes, this is what I have. I have been told it comes directly form the Flugbuch...I have three separate photos, and I stitched it together...

what do you think?

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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

thanks Peter - this certainly looks like a 'good' copy as far as I can tell ...and interesting in that it appears to come from the actual Flugbuch - the cover is just visible (?) ... all I've ever seen are page copies...

I guess 'statements' to the contrary have to go down as no more than 'hearsay' in the face of 'documentary' evidence
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

Neil, I am glad I could help.
I also saw the cover of FB, and had it from man, who was trustful. So I never doubt.
I hope that there is no such a fake FB in such a masterpiece status, including ink stamps on 1944/45 paper kind
so does this mean that Loos had possibly really 4 Russian planes claimed in Ta 152?
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

..as a sceptic I'd say all Ta 152 claims were 'unsubstantiated'. Evidence for or against is largely based on personal reminiscence.
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Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.

think that we may have to question any claims of pilot's with over 3-4 victories flying these late war machines. some speculation with O. Romm with his 6 plus kills against the Soviets in 1945 with the Dora 9, though a nice write up some years ago in A. Prices compilation on the Fw 190 series.
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