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Old 8th June 2017, 19:23
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Regarding CBI kills, it seems to me that classification is done according to the hierarchic command of the unit rather than the location of the kill.

For example, the kills over Southern France are classified as ETO when scored by 8th AF and by MTO when scored by 12th and 15th AF.

As for PB4Y against the Japanese, as no PB4Y unit was based in CBI during the war, all are PTO kills (even if some were scored on Chinese coast).
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Old 8th June 2017, 20:08
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Good evening Leonard & Laurent,

thanks for the info which is of good help.
Can you tell me which rank Sheldon Sutton had attained at the end of the war and which rank when he retired from military service ?
Did he receive some awards ?

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Old 9th June 2017, 04:30
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Sheldon Lloyd Sutton (145671)

ENS, USNR AV(N), 10/16/1942
LTJG, USNR AV(N), 1/1/1944
LT, USNR A1, 5/1/1945
LCDR, USN, 2/1/1952
CDR, USN, 9/1/1956

Not sure when he retired, sometime after 1962 as I got his date of rank for commander from the 1962 register and he does not appear in the next volume I have, 1967. Anytime after October 1962 would have been 20 years in, that’s worth a half pay retirement. I believe his highest award was the DFC.
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Old 9th June 2017, 09:20
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Good morning Leonard,

cool. Thank you.
Has the tonnage of the two ships sunk by Sutton ever been estimated ?
Or the tonnage of the 19 ships sunk by VPB-117 comrade Arthur Elder ?

Have a nice Friday,

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Old 11th June 2017, 04:17
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Well, specialty of the house is people. However, if you could supply some dates, perhaps I could reach into the files and find something . . . maybe, if there's something there . . . not really the way I have things organized.
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Old 12th June 2017, 06:43
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Good morning Leonard,

I wonder who is the most successful Allied pilot against shipping and if somebody has sunk more than the German top pilot in this field Werner Baumbach.
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=44621
Werner Baumbach allegedly - though likely inflated - is credited with 300.000 BRT but I don't know the number of ships. Arthur Elder sunk 19 ships but I don't know the tonnage.

I've found an interesting Sheldon Sutton article:
http://www.texasgopvote.com/governme...raiders-008875

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Michael
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Old 13th June 2017, 17:44
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Michael thanks for that great article. Very well done for an obscure part of WWII.
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Old 17th June 2017, 22:45
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Re: Sheldon Sutton and the Consolidated PB4Y

Thanks, John.
Good evening Leonard & Laurent,

according to James Sawruk the PV Venturas/Harpoons claimed 21 Japanese planes. Were all these kills scored in the PTO (and not CBI) ?

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