Werknummer + Squadron He 111 Moelders died on

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Good morning or good night for all!
Please, I would like to obtain more DATA about the werknummer, codes, Squadron and name of the crew of the He 111 that took Obst Werner Moelders to the funeral of Ernst Udet and eventually crashed at Breslau, taking the life of "Vatti".
I know ( from The First and the last ) that Oberleutnant Kolbe was piloting and that he was a former Condor Legion member.
What were the names of the mechanic and of the radio-operator and also the name of the aide-de-camp of Moelders?
Thanks in advance...

There are some journalists here in Brazil saying in books and magazines that Moelders was flying the He 111....

[kalender1973]

Originally Posted by Adriano Baumgartner

Good morning or good night for all!
Please, I would like to obtain more DATA about the werknummer, codes, Squadron and name of the crew of the He 111 that took Obst Werner Moelders to the funeral of Ernst Udet and eventually crashed at Breslau, taking the life of "Vatti".
I know ( from The First and the last ) that Oberleutnant Kolbe was piloting and that he was a former Condor Legion member.
What were the names of the mechanic and of the radio-operator and also the name of the aide-de-camp of Moelders?
Thanks in advance...

There are some journalists here in Brazil saying in books and magazines that Moelders was flying the He 111....

WerkNR 4513, Tactical 1G+BT, from KG 27. Additionaly Maj Wenzel wonded.

Best regards

[Leo Etgen]

Hello Adriano and Igor

Passengers on the He 111 included Oberleutnant Georg Kolbe who was the pilot, Mölders, his assistant Major Wenzel, the mechanic Oberfeldwebel Hobble and the radio operator Oberfeldwebel Arthur Tenz. All were killed except Wenzel. The aircraft was of III./KG 27. Igor, many thanks for the werknummer.

Horrido!

Leo

[kalender1973]

Originally Posted by Leo Etgen

Hello Adriano and Igor

Passengers on the He 111 included Oberleutnant Georg Kolbe who was the pilot, Mölders, his assistant Major Wenzel, the mechanic Oberfeldwebel Hobble and a radio operator. All were killed except Wenzel. The aircraft was of III./KG 27. Igor, many thanks for the werknummer.

Horrido!

Leo

Hi,

from KG27 diary I have the information, that two people survived, radio operator and gunner + Wenzel (??).
Yes III group, 9. Staffel

[Leo Etgen]

Hello Igor

Do you know the subtype of He 111 it was? Thanks for the information that it was of 9./KG 27. The information I have states that the radio operator was mortally wounded but I would go with the KG 27 diary.

Horrido!

Leo

[kalender1973]

Originally Posted by Leo Etgen

Hello Igor

Do you know the subtype of He 111 it was? Thanks for the information that it was of 9./KG 27.

Horrido!

Leo

Hi Leo,

not exactly but IIRC at the time KG27 use H-3 and H-6.

Best regards

[VtwinVince]

I have an orignal photo taken by former Oberfeldwebel Karl-Heinz Bartsch of KG 27 showing Moelders and Beust just prior to Moelders leaving the airfield. It must also be one of the last of Moelders. I sent a copy to his brother Viktor.

[hihotte]

@VtwinVince: Is there any chance to attract you to scan your photo and post it here? I fear that the copy to Viktor will vanish as time goes by and we "members" of this thread are surely keen to have a look on it.
@Leo and Adriano: would it help you to scan the few pages of the accident report out of the book? It is written in german but maybe you could find an interpretor.
@ all: just as a sidestep - in the post war years the rumours about a possible sabotage on the He 111 carried out by the NSDAP never stopped.
Mölders was known as a Defender of the Catholic Church against the NSDAP.
cheers
hihotte