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Re: War Over The Steppes
Hi there
Was a simple question with no other purpose which triggered an unnecessary reaction at your end . |
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"for having (and reporting) bad news."
According to my knowledge, the use of the term "bad news" by the author proves that the person who writes in this way has no basic knowledge of what happened in June and July 1941 on the Eastern Front (in VVS RKKA). Reports showing the losses incurred in June and July 1941 (in VVS RKKA) were written by staff officers in November, December 1941. Stalin did not kill officers because of "bad news". This is a very strong myth that until now is in the minds of some Western authors. It is just as scary as little effort some authors devote to their "research" regards, mw
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He was the commander of the Western Front on June 22, 1941. It had nothing to do with the pruges of VVS RKKKA aviation commanders. Stalin ordered to punish the guilty for a total catastrophe of troops on the Western Front - shoot them. He was accused of cowardice, ineptitude, loss of arms and storage, arbitrary withdrawal of troops, and consequently led to the collapse of the Soviet-German front. It was such a demonstration of power to all the commanders of what will happen to them for bad military command. regards mw PS In the era of Wikipedias and Google it is terrible to commit so many substantive mistakes in a short sentence
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Everyone please calm down. We're learning a lot about a very controversial topic. Bronc |
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Hello Mirek,
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Documents which you can see on OBD or Pamyat Naroda websites with dates 23.Jul or even 25.Jul were written after a long time and are incorrect. Best regards, Andrey |
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Hello researcher111,
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Best regards, Andrey |
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I didn't gather the figures from my own pockets , nor I asked anyone to believe them - Fact is that these numbers are substantially higher because I did not include all NKVD affiliates and various ranks of Politruks throughout the entire Soviet Union .If you dispute these figure howabout you provide your own evidences Tovarish !
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hi, since you are the one who provide this number, you should be the one to address your source |
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from a friend who works at Russian Military State Archives , a family member who worked in the past in Russian Gov , numerous books etc ---- anything else I can help you with ?
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Some examples? During the darkest years of the Big Terror 1937-38 several thousands officers (lieutenants and above) were executed. When were executed other 130,000+ officers (even apart from lieutenants from your words)? Best regards, Andrey |
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