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459th BG June 24,44 loss
On June 24,1944 459th BG in group with 154 Libs from 304th BW attacked railways repair works and
depots at Craiova , Romania escorted by some 35 P-38's from 82nd FG and later on by 31st FG. According 15th AF archives 459th BG ditched on that day a Lib , while the details are unknown neither MACR available. Would appreciate help to locate that loss. Alex K |
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
This link describes the rescue of a 459th crew for plane "322" , "Sarah Dee" (or "Sarah Doe") on that date.
I believe the plane was 41-29322. It was the 15th mission for the plane and the first for the crew. It ditched in the Adriatic. The loss is discussed starting on pdf page 25, then skips to pdf pages 27, 28 and 29. Link is slow to load, but lists entire crew and describes the mission and the rescue. https://web.archive.org/web/20160516.../ersjune44.pdf 8 crewmen rescued and 2 men drowned. Last edited by RSwank; 20th December 2018 at 13:58. |
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
Nothing on this date for a rescue operation in the book "Beyond Courage", the story of the RAF ASR squadrons in Mediterranean, neither in the diary of the 1st ERS (the USAAF unit flying ASR in MTO with OA-10s).
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
Swank
Thanks very much hard to open that page , for some reason I cant locate the MACR neither a Sarah Dee, instead 459th BG website lists it as "Straub " in addition "Caffee Tower " doesnt list either aircraft . Alex K |
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
Sorry, for some reason I checked 24 JULY 1944, not June.
Actually, there is a rather long description of a rescue of a 459th BG crew on 24 June 1944: " 24 June 1944 Another rescue by Lieutenant Milburn and crew ended a ten day famine and netted eight survivors. PBY No 958, having been assigned patrol duty in the vicinity of Peagrus Island, took-off from Foggie Main at 1140. Shortly upon arrival at the designated area, a radio “fix” on a “ditched” B-24G was received. The coordinates given were 410 40’ North and 170 30’ East. Navigator, Lieutenant Haynie, accurately plotted the course, and following less that ten minutes of search, two dinghies were sighted at 12:55. The sea was high with eight to ten foot swells, presenting not only a very real hazard but a frank challenge to both pilot and crew – which they were quick to accept. (It is secretly believed that the appearance of a plane from Flight “A” was the precipitating factor in promoting the never-the-less bold decision.) The Catalina in a cross-wind landing, hit the water with a resounding whack and bounced over the wave crests, its hull battered and its rudder crinkled. A section of Plexiglas, in the starboard blister hatch, shattered under the series of impacts. The damaged plane, leaking water through popped rivot holes, taxied to the rafts and the occupants, eight in number, were assisted aboard. It was debatable whether the plane could, in its present state, make a safe take-off. Two attempts proved unsuccessful, but by taxing at some distance and retracing its course over the wake of a newly erected trough the third try, with prayer and trembling, was more fortunate. The “Cat” was smacked once, twice and then leaping high cleared the water. The PBY was on the sea a total of forty minutes, from 13:05 to 13:45 and landed on Foggia Main at 14:55, where two ambulances waited to take the survivors to the 61st Station Hospital. Interrogation of the survivors elicited this, an unusual story: The crew of veteran “Sarah Doe”, a B-24C No 322 which had already completed its fourteenth mission and was therefore not a stranger to combat, finished it training at Lincoln, Nebraska and left the States in a B-24Y from Manchester, New Hampshire on 29 May 1944, arriving in Italy 9 June 1944. The crew are members of the 759th Bomb Squadron, 459th Bomb Group, located at Giulia Field, near Cerignola, Italy. It was their initial mission. Take-off, of an echelon of forty-six bombers, was scheduled for 0610. All were successfully airborne with the exception for B-24G No 322, which because of a crash landing at the base, was delayed forty-five minutes. Meanwhile with all engines running, much of the 2,700 gallons of fuel was expanded. The tower issued instructions and the retarded Bomber took to the air, taxing its engines to the utmost to catch the formation, for it was discovered that the tail gun turret was not operational and therefore made the easily vulnerable to enemy fighter attack. To compensate for lost time and to remain in formation, the horsepower had to be increased up to 2,500 revolutions per minute, gas consumption was proportionally greater and the manifold pressure was run up to forty-five inches of mercury. The older B-24 models, of which this was one, are equipped with manually operated turbo-superchargers. No 4 engine, out of gas, sputtered alarmingly. Gasoline was transferred from tank Number 1, to Number 4 and the engine continued to run. The raiders reached their target objective, a railroad repair depot in Craiova, Romania, at 0933. No 322 salvoed its bombs making hits, but losing altitude, lagged behind; showing a marked tendency to swerve to the left. The accessory or “Tokio” wing tanks, holding 250 gallons each, were now empty. No 1 engine cut out and the controls were set on “Taking Engine – Cross – Feed”. Once more all motors began to function. At 17,600 feet and about thirty five minutes from the coast, two super-chargers indicated a noticeable elevation. Later check on the “Petrol” supply, revealed a figure approximating one hundred and seventy gallons. At 11:35 the radio operator, realizing that the fuel supply was insufficient to reach friendly territory, was ordered to send out “May Day” or calls of distress, informing all stations that a “ditching” was contemplated at or about 410 30’ North and 170 33’ East. The pilot leveled off and turned cross-wind with full flaps and a power setting for maximum range and minimum gas consumption. At this point the fuel supply was exhausted and the bomber, with nose held level and gliding fast (110 MPH), slapped the water in the cradle of a trough. The B-24 immediately broke in two at the bomb-bay, the tail portion sinking in less than two minutes, The forward piece however, buoyant because of empty wing tanks remained afloat for about eleven minutes. When the plane “ditched”, the top hatch and waist windows were open: and the Bombay doors closed. The pilot escaped through the top hatch and the co-pilot through the broken window in the Pilot’s compartment. All crew members got out, but the Navigator and Bombardier, who, too weak of too seriously injured to pull the release cord and inflate their “Mae Wests”, drowned. All survivors now in life vests climbed into the two dinghies, one of which was capsized and had to be righted. Two B-24’s circling over head dropped additional life preservers, auxiliary kits and a “Gibson Girl” (Radio) by parachute. The survivors were in and on the water a total of one hour and twenty nine minutes. All expressed a willingness despite the mishap, to fly again. SURVIVORS Pilot 2nd Lt Levine, Leonard 0-816508 23 1647 Dahill Road No Injuries Brooklyn, New York Co-Pilot 2nd Lt Penn, Stuart L 0-705042 23 5204 Nottingham Road No injuries Detroit, Michigan Engineer S/Sgt Flader, Rudolph F 32714371 21 15 Ralph Avenue No Injuries Oceanside, New York Radio Oper S/Sgt Sardi, Frederick 32768318 21 Mt Komble Road No Injuries Morristown, New Jersey Ball T Gunner Sgt Reinhart, William L 32772165 20 23 Swan Road lacerations left side Livingston, New Jersey of head Tail T Gunner Sgt Meriweather, Nicholas R 18135443 20 Box 505 laceration left hand Winnsboro, Louisana Nose Gunner Sgt Penton, Palrh G 31300283 20 108 Park Ave (Ext) contusion forehead Arlington, Mass Top T Gunner Sgt Wadden, Jack R 13179274 21 319 59th Street deep lacerations left thigh West New York, N. Y. DEAD Bombardier 2nd Lt Doseh, Richard D 20 Fort Wayne, Indiana Navigator 2nd Lt Rytter, Leroy 26 Akron, Ohio CREW: Pilot 2nd Lt Milburn, Walter B 0-739838 Co-Pilot 2nd Lt Busby, Murrel 0-750334 Navigator 1st Lt Haynie, Otho J Jr 0-725869 Engineer S/Sgt Cox, Allen B 38194913 Radio Oper Cpl Bols, Harold A 35625492 Engineer Sgt Lasater, Paul A 37133437 Radar Oper Sgt Hendrix, Louis L 37224826 Surgical Tech Cpl Giza, Stanley F 36602581" Last crew is the OA-10 crew in this rescue attempt. |
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
Laurent
Thank you for the comprehensive info, where did you gather all this from ? According Caffee Tower 41-29322 was a B-24-H with 759 named Straub in addition none of my 459th records carry any details on Lt Doseh Richard only Rytter appears but without details . BR Alex Last edited by researcher111; 20th December 2018 at 19:37. |
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
The text is an extract of the PDF at the URL given by RSwank above. It is the war diary of 1st ERS.
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
Oh OK got it thanks !
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
Doseh is actually Richard D Dosch
https://www.459bg.org/DOSCH_RICHARD_...3466_459BG.cfm https://www.abmc.gov/node/547683#.XBwGkFxKjb0 |
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Re: 459th BG June 24,44 loss
Thanks Swank ,
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