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USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
Hi Guys
Can anybody please enlighten me as to which dates the USSAF flew sorties over Romania in June/July 1944, what numbers, and what losses they incurred?and where if possible. Grateful for any assistance. Kind Regards Johannes |
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
Hi Johannes,
You might start by Googling "P-38 Lightning's Blackest Day". On 10 June the Romanian (yes, Romanian!) air force IAR81s gave USAAF P-38 Lightnings quite a drubbing. Cheers, Sid. |
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
Hi Johannes,
besides the P-38 raid, most of the 15. Air Force sorties (vs I Jagdkorps) in June/July 1944 were directed against primary targets in Vienna area and Hungary, some in southern Germany or Czech, but few over Romania to my knowledge regards Alessandro |
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
Thanks guys.
Am researching about Enrst Stengl and Friedrich Obleser each of 8./JG 52, Stengl claims two B-24's at this time, but no confirmation. Obleser claims nine including two viermots, however he submitted no paperwork. Other JG 52 pilots have entries on their abschüße liste, but likewise some unconfirmed. But I know June 1944 is the likely month. Kind Regards Johannes |
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
June & July 15th AF bombing missions in Rumania
A/D Airdrome Br Bridge Dp Depot M/Y Marshalling Yard O/R Oil Refinery RR Railroad R/S Repair Shops June 02 B-24 : M/Y at Simeria & Cluj 02 B-17 : M/Y at Oradea 06 B-24 : O/R at Ploesti, M/Y at Brasov 06 B-17 : ? at Galati (FRANTIC) 11 B-24 : O/R at Giurgiu, ? at Constanta 11 B-17 : A/D at Foscani (FRANTIC) 23 B-24 : O/R at Ploesti & Giurgiu 23 B-17 : O/R at Ploesti 24 B-24 : O/R at Ploesti, RRDp at Craiova 24 B-17 : RRBr at Piatra 28 B-24 : O/R at Bucharest July 03 B-24 : O/R at Bucharest & Giurgiu 03 B-17 : R/S at Arad, RRBr at Piatra 04 B-24 : M/Y & RRBr at Pitesti 04 B-17 : O/R at Brasov 09 B-24 : O/R at Ploesti 09 B-17 : O/R at Ploesti 15 B-24 : O/R at Ploesti 15 B-17 : O/R at Ploesti 22 B-24 : O/R at Ploesti 22 B-17 : O/R at Ploesti 28 B-24 : O/R at Ploesti 28 B-17 : O/R at Ploesti 31 B-24 : O/R at Bucharest & Targoviste 31 B-17 : O/R at Ploesti |
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
The targets of the first two raids in the list were in Hungary at that time.
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
Hello Johannes
02/06/44:Bombardment of Cluj one B-24 of 464°BG lost 06/06/44:16 losses over Romania Bombardment of Romano Americana one B-24 of 376°BG lost one B-24 of 98°BG lost Bombardment of Xenia one B-24 of 451°BG lost one B-24 of 461°BG lost Bombardment of Dacia Romana seven B-24 lost Bombardment of Rimnicu Vilcea one B-24 of 459°BG lost 11/06/44 Bombardment of Focsani one B-17 of 97°BG lost Bombardment of Constanta one B-24 of 98°BG lost one B-24 of 376°BG lost one B-24 of 449°BG lost two P-38 one P-51 (crash italia) Bombardment of Giurgiu one B-24 of 451°BG lost one B-24 of 461°BG lost one B-24 of 484°BG lost one B-24 of 484°BG crashed italia 23/06/44 Bombardment of Giurgiu two B-24 of 485°BG lost one B-24 of 451°BG lost one B-24 of 484°BG lost Bombardment of Romano Americana two B-17 of 301°BG lost one B-17 of 99°BG lost Bombardment of Dacia Romana two B-17 of 97°BG lost one B-17 group? lost one P-51 of 31°FG crashed adriatic three P-51 of 325°FG lost two P-51 of 52°FG lost 24/06/44 Bombardment of Craiova one B-24 of 459°BG crashed adriatic Bombardment of Romano Americana two B-24 of 98°BG lost four B-24 of 376°BG lost one B-24 of 449°BG lost five four-engined of 450°BG lost one B-24 of 325°BG lost 28/06/44 Bombardment of Titan three B-24 of 485°BG lost Michel |
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
Only on June 11,44 Uffz Stengl 8./JG52 shot down Fort "Cesspool Cedric" from Poltava, SSE of Focsani , which by the way was also claimed by Lipfert and Romanian ace A.Serbanescu , I can not see any B-24's or other Forts bought down by Stengl during June or July 44 nor any details on Oblesser .The relevance of the victory does not
lie into the loss of a single B-17 brought down by him or by his JG52 friends enroute from Poltava to Romania but the capture of the footage from Lt.McKay body (CCU1) a photographer attached to this mission by CCU1 in Bari, who took on board and without permission from the Soviets aerial fotage of Poltava taken by him some time prior departure to Romania which later on led to the Luftwaffe precision bombing of Poltawa known later on as the the "Poltawa Disaster " Alex K Last edited by researcher111; 24th September 2018 at 13:59. |
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Re: USAAF sorties over Romania June/July 1944
"one B-24 of 325°BG lost" actually 1 P-51 of the 325th FG was lost with Lt. Joseph W. Warner
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