|
Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies. |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
The book 'Six Months to Oblivion' shows the loss of three pilots of SG4 this day. I have details for the loss of Obfr. Heinrich Zotloterrer seeking details of the other two please,
Regards Brian Bines |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
1944-12-24, 2./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 581638, 10 schw, Raum Bastogne, Im Luftkampf abgeschoßen. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Vogel, Richard, tot 1944-12-24, 3./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 933295, 8 gelbe, Raum Bastogne, Im Luftkampf vermutlich abgeschoßen. Bruch 100 %. Flugzeugführer Ofw Kobuhs, Lothar, vermißt 1944-12-24, 5./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 933478, Eichwald, südlich Schmidtheim, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %. Flugzeugführer Uffz Paschke, Willy, tot 1944-12-24, 7./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 933272, 10 gelbe, 12 km südlich Hess.-Lichtenau, bei Kassel, Absturz infolge Bedienungsfehler bei Überführung. Bruch 100 %. Flugzeugführer Ofw Bohrmann, Rudolf, tot 1944-12-24, 8./SG 4, FW 190F-8, 586444, 10 schw, Raum Bastogne, Von Angriff auf Bastogne nicht zurück. Bruch 100 %. Flugzeugführer Ofhr Zotlöterer, Heinz, vermißt Matti |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
Matti, thanks very much for your help, really appreciated,
Regards Brian Bines |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
Ofw. Kobus rest at Ehrenfriedhof Sandweiler/Luxembourg. Crashed in Northern Luxembourg. Hit Overland-Wire-cabels during low-level-flying.
Fw. Vogel looks like crashed near Seffernweich Krs. Bitburg/Eifel. Burried as unkown Airmen at Bitburg-Kolmeshöhe. From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border) |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
Hans, thanks very much for the additional inf.,
Regards Brian Bines |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border) 2nd August 2011 14:26
From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border) 2nd August 2011 14:26 From OFhr. Zotlöterers emergency landing nearby an small french village exist photos!! (French-Luxembourg Border) = Mercy le Bas 13 km SO Longuyon Rémi |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
Did the 7th and 8th Staffel of SG 4 blong to the 2nd Gruppe or the 3rd? Did this unit add the 4th Staffel per Gruppe like the fighter units?
SG 4 reported another 6 losses on 26-Dec-44. Does anyone have any other information on Fister and Rahofer losses? 26-Dec-44, , FW 190, , Fister, Fw., , SG 4, I., I., , , , , 26-Dec-44, , Damaged, cause unknown., Injured per loss, corrected in update., RLV Ost, Gen.Qu.6.Abt.-BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/1199, p.67, , , b, F 26-Dec-44, , FW 190, , Rahofer, Fw., , SG 4, III., III., , , , , 26-Dec-44, , Damaged, cause unknown., Injured per loss, corrected in update., RLV Ost, Gen.Qu.6.Abt.-BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/1199, p.67, , , b, F 26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 933475, Zunkeller, Ofw. Karl, , SG 4, III., 7., gelbe, 16 +, , , 26-Dec-44, , MIA due to Luftkampf., , RLV, WASt, , Raum Bastogne, 100%, F 26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 683600, Weinreich, Ofw. Heinrich, , SG 4, II., 6., , , , , 26-Dec-44, , MIA due to Luftkampf, , RLV, WASt, , Bastogne, 100%, F 26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 582293, JUNGCLAUSEN, Hptm. Heinz, , SG 4, I., 3., gelbe, 2 +, , , 26-Dec-44, , Stkp. KIA due to Luftkampf with RAF fighters., RK., RLV, WASt; Girbig, Start im Morgengrauen, , Salbing bei Borbach nördlich Soon Woods, 100%, F 26-Dec-44, , FW 190F-8, 581016, Schümer, Hptm. Erich, , SG 4, I., 1., weiße, 11+, , , 26-Dec-44, , Stfhr. KIA due to Luftkampf., , RLV, WASt, , 1km südlich Aßmannshausen, 100%, F |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
Ofw. Heinrich Weinreich, still missing in Action, changed after 1940 from Heer to Luftwaffe, flying a time as Erprobungsflieger for Henschel, shoot down one time 1944 in Italy.
Ofw. Karl Zumkeller, hit wireless cable near Baschleiden/Grand Dutchy of Luxembourg, burried at Sandweiler/Luxembourg Schümer & Jungclausen, I have a problem with "Englische Jäger" over the River Rhine that day. |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
Dont forget Eissele,
24 12 44 III SG4 F Bastogne LFK P51 FW190 besch, unv, Eissele oblt f S, 09h20 L 10h20 |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Re: SG4 losses on 24-12-1944
Hi all,
I've been researching Fw190 losses on 24 Dec 1944 and have been trying to determine which airplane was downed by the 451st AAA(AW) on that day. The airplane was brought down by a combination of 40mm and .50 caliber fire and the pilot belly landed about 500yds from the guns that brought it down. Apparently the pilot was uninjured and was quickly captured by soldiers of the 451st. It looks like OFhr Zotloterrer was flying this airplane as he was captured (according to Danny S. Parker's "To Win the Winter Sky") 8 miles southeast of Longuyon. The 451st took one of the propeller blades from this airplane and was quickly painted with the entire 31st AAA Group's scoreboard. That propeller blade currently resides in the entrance of the 31st Air Defense Artillery Brigade's headquarters and is property of the US Army Air Defense Artillery Museum. I'll post some photos of it shortly. v/r Jonathan Bernstein Director US Army Air Defense Artillery Museum |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Ju88 losses 1943 Med/Hs126 losses Yuoslavia 1944 | Brian | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 16 | 1st June 2009 15:09 |
France, 11 & 12 July 1944 - losses of a P 51 and a P 47 | BABIN | Allied and Soviet Air Forces | 2 | 6th January 2009 00:55 |
ME 163 Komet losses on 2nd November 1944 | Adriano Baumgartner | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 6 | 8th June 2008 12:26 |
I/JG 5 and I/JG 3 losses over N Germany - 25th August 1944 | Adriano Baumgartner | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 1 | 24th April 2008 03:39 |
A-20 losses for september 29 1944 | Stephane Muret | Allied and Soviet Air Forces | 2 | 20th April 2005 19:56 |