Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Reviews > Books and Magazines > Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings 1933-1945

Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings 1933-1945 by Kenneth A. Merrick
with Jürgen Kiroff

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 8th July 2007, 14:53
Evgeny Velichko's Avatar
Evgeny Velichko Evgeny Velichko is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Stalingrad
Posts: 1,289
Evgeny Velichko is on a distinguished road
Question 1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.

Two emblems:
"Black hand" and "Bernburger Jaeger".

Many sourses sa that:
1./ZG 2:

I./ZG 2:


How it can be?
Bf109D-1 of Maj.Hannes Gentzen. Carry " Emblem.
http://www.old.modelarstwo.org.pl/lo...-109d-1/03.jpg

Aircraft of Gruppen Komandeur carry "1./ZG 2" emblem instead of I./ZG 2???

So, wich one was "Gruppe" emblem and wich one was "Staffel' emblem?
__________________
Went to war.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 19th April 2008, 16:41
Christian Schulz's Avatar
Christian Schulz Christian Schulz is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 56
Christian Schulz is on a distinguished road
Post Re: 1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.

If you want to hear my reading of all of this ...

I do think, that the "Bernburger Jäger" is the Gruppenemblem (later carried on by I./ZG 2) and the "Hand" is the Staffelemblem. There's a photo in "Die deutsche Tagjagd" on one of the first pages which shows Bf 109 D of "Jagdgruppe Bernburg" (aka I./JG 137) during war games. In the front there are several Bf 109 Ds of 1./JG 137 completely devoid of any emblems. But in the background the Bf 109s of 2./JG 137 can be seen and they carry the "Bernburger Jäger" beneath the cockpit windshield.

My 0,02 € ...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 19th April 2008, 17:38
robert robert is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 1,897
robert is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.

Evgeny,

the hand was a flight emblem.

Regards

Robert
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 19th April 2008, 17:46
Evgeny Velichko's Avatar
Evgeny Velichko Evgeny Velichko is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Stalingrad
Posts: 1,289
Evgeny Velichko is on a distinguished road
Re: 1./ZG 2 and I./ZG 2 emblems.

THX a lot gents.
__________________
Went to war.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Identity of Pilot of U8+CB of Stab I./ZG 26 1940 Larry Hickey Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 9 2nd August 2012 00:50
List of StaKa's I./ZG 1, Erpr.Gr.210, I./SKG 210, I./ZG 1. Evgeny Velichko Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 16 2nd March 2008 10:30
I./ZG 76 operations, 6.12.39 Adam Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 2 11th December 2006 10:24
I./ZG 1 claims in 1939 - 1940 - any info? Evgeny Velichko Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 58 20th October 2006 14:47
I./ZG I - Lt. Kurd GMELIN BABIN Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 5 18th January 2006 13:09


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:08.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net