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Old 5th April 2012, 23:23
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US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

Hi guys

A US C-47 was shot down in error for a Ju88 on 29 October 1942 by RAF fighters over the Mediterranean.

Can anyone provide details of the C-47, its fate and crew?

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Old 6th April 2012, 14:58
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Re: US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

How about

S/Sgt Thomas L Downs 3rd Squadron 1st Ferry Group
1 Lt Lens H Hansen Jr DFC no unit listed Named Jens H Hansen Jr elsewhere.
PFC Charles F Cline Headquarters Squadron 9th Airforce Survey Command
Capt Paul F Roth Headquarters 323rd Air Survey Group


They don't sound like an Air Crew however, except for Downs and Hansen maybe.

Maybe there were suvivors and passengers were the casualties?
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Old 6th April 2012, 17:34
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Re: US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

Thanks Dennis

That seems like an encouraging start. Hopefully there's a lead or two to follow.

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Re: US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

Here's a snippet from "The Liberandos:376th BG"

"Widespread resentment followed the contemporary loss of two other First Provisional pilots,Capt. Paul Roth and Lt Jens Hansen on a courier flight to Cairo in a C-47. Their C-47 and another C-47 were flying through the designated defense corridor at Port Said,near the Suez Canal when a RAF Spitfire shot them down.

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Old 6th April 2012, 22:43
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Re: US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

Brian,

1st Lt Jens Hansen's name appears in a Headquarters Roster of 1 October 1943 with the notification "deceased" under "Officers formerly in Ninth Air Force Headquarters".

For many more names see
http://home.comcast.net/~dhsetzer/paper/Desert009.pdf

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Re: US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

Thanks Kaki & Leendert

Now we're getting somewhere. Yes, both Capt Roth and Lt Hansen - and probably PVC Cline (HQ Sqn 9thAF).

Strange that I haven't been able to locate this C-47 in the various USAAF losses I've searched, so we still require unit and serial number.

I wonder what unit a courier aircraft would have been flying with?

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Old 7th April 2012, 17:44
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Re: US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

Brian,

The US did have an Africa-Middle East Wing of Air Transport Command at that time.
Period of shooting down of C-47 coincides with final Battle of El Alamein and a Royal Navy cruiser squadron with destroyers had (held) exercises north of Port Said, all of which may have contributed to the RAF Spitfire being on extra alert for intruders.

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Old 7th April 2012, 21:24
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Re: US C-47 shot down by RAF 29 October 1942

Thanks Leendert

My information on this incident adds:

"At the subsequent court martial the errant pilot was completely exonerated as the American aircraft was 150 miles off course and had failed to display the mandatory identification codes."

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