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[joel husson]

Hello,
I am looking for the names of the crew of the He111 S3 + DK killed by US DCA in Bogny sur Meuse at a place called "the perrieres" in the night from 24 to 25 November 1944, it was painted white
thank you
Joel

[Matti Salonen]

1944-11-24, 2./TGr. 30, He 111 H-16, 8543, S3+DK, Bullou, 20 km nordwestlich Châteaudun, Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Dyrda, Karl, +
Beobachter Fw Hahn, Heinz, +
Bordfunker Uffz Schreder, Anton, +
Bordwart Ogfr Wegener, Willi, +
Bordschütze Gefr Zangl, Josef, +

Matti

[joel husson]

after the book of Pierre Roger, registration of 2.TGr30 is S3 + DK, wknummer 8343
the aircraft has remained a good time on the ground, another He111 fell to Rilly Mountain (Marne) south of Reims
danke
Joel

[Brian Bines]

Fw Dyrda is shown as being captured but injured on 'K' report 642/1944, two of the crew Ogef. Wegener and Gef. Zangl are buried at Lommel,

Regards
Brian Bines

[joel husson]

hello
one of the members of the crews was able jumped but was taken by the "resistance" was coming to the ground, by the group "judex". others are killed in the crash.
the plane was long on the ground, and nearby residents dressed with canvas parachutes. there is a story in the book "the air warfare in the department of Ardennes vol3."
the crew can be based in Noyers Pont Maugis
I have a name: Müller Uffz? very common name
danke
Joel

[Brian Bines]

Joel, the S3+GL crashed 15 miles S/W of Reims on 1-1-1945 but no Uffz.Muller in the crew would this fit in to your one lost south of Reims. The S3+CH included a Bw Uffz. Walter Muller but he and his crew were taken prisoner following a crash landing 4 miles north of Nantes on 23-2-45 ,

Brian Bines

[Nick Beale]

ULTRA mentions that two TGr. 30 aircraft went missing on 24 November: He 111 H-6 W.Nr. 8542 and H-16 W.Nr. 166309. That first W.Nr. is almost certainly a typing error (at the German end) as 8543 is among aircraft listed on the Gruppe's strength on 23 November.

An Uffz. Müller, Walter was the gunner in a TGr. 30 Heinkel posted missing on 24 February 1945 but as people have said, it's a very common name.

[joel husson]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

ULTRA mentions that two TGr. 30 aircraft went missing on 24 November: He 111 H-6 W.Nr. 8542 and H-16 W.Nr. 166309. That first W.Nr. is almost certainly a typing error (at the German end) as 8543 is among aircraft listed on the Gruppe's strength on 23 November.

An Uffz. Müller, Walter was the gunner in a TGr. 30 Heinkel posted missing on 24 February 1945 but as people have said, it's a very common name.

Hello Nick,
He another 111 of the uni is lost that night in "Rilly la Montagne" south of Reims.
thanks
joel

[Brian Bines]

Joel, there is a Bw Fhj.Uffz August Muller shown as missing with his crew on 26.11.1944 in He111 S3+IK 701405. Took off from Rhein-Main on a supply flight to Dunkirk I have no location for crash.

[joel husson]

it is stated in the book "la guerre aérienne au dessus des Ardennes vol. 3" Francoise and Pierre Roger.
the He111 Bogny sur Meuse served as "pots" to the local population and the bodies of soldiers have not all been collected, but much later.
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Joel