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Old 4th November 2017, 02:38
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Re: wreck identification - engine pictures

Definitely not an 801...as the 801 exhaust outlets were oval...not round.
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Old 4th November 2017, 02:46
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WHOOPS!!

Eating my words here...

100% that is a BMW801...night fighter.

Look at the 2nd pic...I thought it was just coral...but those are the flame dampers, as used on the Fw190.

Looking BACK at the first pic...you can see them there too (looked like round outlets)...but those are flame dampers, too.

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Old 4th November 2017, 11:53
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WHOOPS!!

Eating my words here...

100% that is a BMW801...night fighter.

Look at the 2nd pic...I thought it was just coral...but those are the flame dampers, as used on the Fw190.

Looking BACK at the first pic...you can see them there too (looked like round outlets)...but those are flame dampers, too.

Mike
Thank you! Yes, flame dampers. These pieces were probably used by both allied and german forces, no?
Pipes of BMW801 were flattened, but those of the wreck seem to be round. We have to check this next time too.
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Old 4th November 2017, 15:25
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Re: wreck identification - engine pictures

arg...

I know the BMW801 exhausts were totally round tubes...and then they tapered to an oval/oblong shape towards the end (the last 70cm or so)...

Looking back...these appear to be round all the way.

So scratch the bmw801 idea.


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Old 4th November 2017, 18:49
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arg...

I know the BMW801 exhausts were totally round tubes...and then they tapered to an oval/oblong shape towards the end (the last 70cm or so)...

Looking back...these appear to be round all the way.

So scratch the bmw801 idea.


Hello,

would it be possible, when BMW 801 is provided with flame dampers, that exhaust pipes would be round all the way, to avoid excessive flames?

The photo of the flame damper you attached seems very close to the subaquatic picture...

Does anyone know if those flame dampers are standard for both allied and german aircrafts?

thanks,

hervé
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Old 4th November 2017, 19:01
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Re: wreck identification - engine pictures

Where did the crash/ditch occured?

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Old 4th November 2017, 19:04
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Hello,

would it be possible, when BMW 801 is provided with flame dampers, that exhaust pipes would be round all the way, to avoid excessive flames?

hervé
No, they tapered to an oval/oblong shape. I have owned a few of them, and had to go back to my pictures to confirm. They basically slide over top of the oval end, and then bolted down.

Mike
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Old 4th November 2017, 19:12
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Where did the crash/ditch occured?

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south of France, not far from spanish border (Port-Vendres area)
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Old 4th November 2017, 21:08
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Re: wreck identification - engine pictures

http://legendsintheirowntime.com/LiT...are_p040_W.png

Judging from what others say, I suggest studying this. Only can not find the elevator "horns" and u/c seems gone, if lying upside down. KG 100 and KG 40 flew the type in West MTO, but also others I think.
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Old 5th November 2017, 14:50
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Hi,

Sorry too repeat myself, but does someone know if such flame dampers were only on german radial engines, or were those the same on english aircrafts? Because someone who dived on this wreck years ago is pretty sure it was a british engine, as he apparentely saw english writings on a carburetor...

Thanks,

Hervé
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