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Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
Last year I mailed Barry Rosch of Luftwaffe Verband some information on Hungarian Me110’s. It never got into the magazine because it ceased to exist.
I’m posting it here for those who want to know. Dennis In LV 15, page 18,LV 16, page 8 and LV 17, page 12 a photograph of Hungarian Me110’s is discussed. While I was goint through some RAF documents from the PRO I found the following: On July 21th, 1945, the British armed forces moved into a part of Austria that had been previously under Soviet ocupation. On the Airfield of Zeltweg a number of Me110’s were found, the C and D types previously belonged to Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z Me110C-4 TD+GZ 3624 Me110C-4 CF+NF 3063 Me110C-7 BB+UN 3512 Me110D-3 CC+MO Me110E-2 KB+XX 4397 Me110E-2/U4 SB+IN 3781 Me110G-2 2N+IN 120032 The D-3 was found on the airbase itself, the C models were found in a wood 2 miles from the base. |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
Hi Dennis
Can you or someone else expand a little on this unit in question and where Hungary enters the picture Thanks and B Rgds Stig |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
Dennis,
Were there any Hungarian-marked warplanes found on Zeltweg a/f?
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Dénes |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
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In Hungary, there was a significant Me 210 production, and a lot of pilots/full units were re-trained to the Me 210. The first grade for this re-training was the mentioned Bf 110 school, which stationed at Budapest-Ferihegy. Ihave some nice, unpublished pictures and interesting remembrances as well about this unit. |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
Hi Dennis,
My Grandfather also did the ABK-Z from November 1943 to 02 Februar 1944 in Budapest-Ferihegy airport. Probably on the Bf110 list one of he flew. He told me the German Bf110 plane had a gray colour. In the WWII for the Hungarian fighter, zerstörer pilots didn't write any nummer or stammkennzeichen on they loogbook. If you are corrius about his training flying I can send for you copys from his loogbook (fliegerbuch). Sincerely, Balazs |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
Guys,
I'm at work at the moment. When I'm home I will try to answer your questions. Dénés, From the top of my head there was a HE111 IN hungarian markings (a verry old type) Dennis |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
OK Thanks
But what I want to know is if this is to be classified as a Hungarian Unit or a German one! If Hungarian, why did they use German markings? If German, is there any other name for it? Ausbildungskommando Z doesn't sound very ingenius.... Cheers Stig |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
The Hungarian references for Zeltweg are:
Nr. 76-93 MAVAG. HOMERO V6 + (White) Nr.94-101 Low wing, S/E, S/S Unarmed with accommodation for 2 x Mk 131 between top cylinders. 18 of these a/c found in wood South of airfield. 8 on airfield. 14 cylinder air-cooled engine. All had Hungarian V6 or V5 markings. Nr.102-112 AR-96 BZ, Argus 411, VE+YF, W.nr.650156 Hungarian trainers. 11 found on airfield. Nr.113-121 AR-66, Argus AS.10, Hungarian trainers, 9 found on airfield. Nr.122-124 Gotha 145, AS 10 G, Hungarian trainers. 3 found on dump on the airfield The Hungarian references for Woschach/aigen are: Fw.58, Hungarian markings, made by Magyar Waggon Gyor Fw.58, Hungarian markings, made by Focke-Wulf He 111, Hungarian, A3+AF, very old model That’s all on Hungarian aircraft. Balazs; I would like to see a Hungarian flugbook, it would be interesting to see! Hope this helps, Dennis |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
Stig,
It was called only as Ausblidungskommando Zerstörer (Ungarn) and was led by Oberleutnant Weirich. Balázs, few Hungarian pilot had German Flugbücher as well (these are amazing sources with codes, targets, etc). |
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Re: Hungarian Me110's of Ausb.Kdo.ABK-Z
Thanks Csaba
Stig |
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