Need info on 2 P-38 losses 1943 North Africa

[wally7506]

Seeking any information on the following P-38 crashes:

11 Sept 1943 97th FS. 82 FG "CD" a/c name "Chicken Dit" formerly "Cadiz Eagle"

28 Dec 1943 14th FG HQ ser 43-2527 pilot A.F. Reinhardt (Casablanca, French Morocco)

Thnx

[RSwank]

"Chicken Dit" was flown by Gerald L Rounds. The serial number is apparently not known.
https://books.google.com/books?id=QR...nds%22&f=false

Search for Rounds on this:
http://www.bushwings.com/Pages/Adori...20p103-107.htm


There is a photo being sold on e-bay and it appears to me the name on the life vest is "Rounds, G. L." Click on the photo to see an enlarged version.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USAAF-WW2-P...-/401732808025



Brief mention of Reinhardt (given as "Reingardt") (search for 43-2527) here.
http://raf-112-squadron.org/14thfghonor_roll42_43.html

I believe his full name was Arthur Frederick Reinhardt.

[wally7506]

Originally Posted by RSwank

"Chicken Dit" was flown by Gerald L Rounds. The serial number is apparently not known.
https://books.google.com/books?id=QR...nds%22&f=false

Search for Rounds on this:
http://www.bushwings.com/Pages/Adori...20p103-107.htm


There is a photo being sold on e-bay and it appears to me the name on the life vest is "Rounds, G. L." Click on the photo to see an enlarged version.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USAAF-WW2-P...-/401732808025



Brief mention of Reinhardt (given as "Reingardt") (search for 43-2527) here.
http://raf-112-squadron.org/14thfghonor_roll42_43.html

I believe his full name was Arthur Frederick Reinhardt.

Thank you RSwank, that is all I could find on the web, too. I was hoping that someone here might be able to fill in some of the blanks, like maybe the serial number for "Chicken Dit". If it bellied in and was written off there most be an accident report or something similar somewhere, right?

[edwest2]

Wrong spot.

[Alex Smart]

Hello,
From what I could find,
43-2527
04/17/43 - "56", "Patty II", W/O landing accident, Salvaged 04/17/43.
12/20/43 - Oliver B. Taylor - 1 claim for e/a.
01/10/44 - Oliver B. Taylor - 1 claim for e/a.

12/28/43 Reinhardt, Casablanca, French Morocco.
12/28/43 Crashed,Belly landing, due to engine failure or fire.

But Odd that Reinhardt would be flying Taylors a/c, it must have been a minor accident as Taylor would be flying it again a few days later to claim an e/a ??


Looking for the 82FG a/c

Regarding 1Lt. Gerald L. Rounds.
The July 5th mission was his 51st mission. In all he completed 82 missions . Returning to the USA at the end of September '43.
His five victories were all Bf109's.
He was an 82ndFG original Staff Sgt pilot.
Awards were:
Silver Star ; 2x DFC ; 16 Air Medals.
Picture of Rounds with crewmen T/Sgt. Calvert Wilson & Sgt. Phillip Oswalt, standing in front of "Cadiz Eagle" after Rounds fourth victory.
So name changed after this , wonder why ??
Ref: Steve Blake's "Adorimini- ("Up and at Em!")

Alex

[wally7506]

Originally Posted by Alex Smart

Hello,
From what I could find,
43-2527
04/17/43 - "56", "Patty II", W/O landing accident, Salvaged 04/17/43.
12/20/43 - Oliver B. Taylor - 1 claim for e/a.
01/10/44 - Oliver B. Taylor - 1 claim for e/a.

12/28/43 Reinhardt, Casablanca, French Morocco.
12/28/43 Crashed,Belly landing, due to engine failure or fire.

But Odd that Reinhardt would be flying Taylors a/c, it must have been a minor accident as Taylor would be flying it again a few days later to claim an e/a ?

Alex

That's what I get. 12/28/43 Belly landed and probably written off. I am beginning to thank that 43-2527 was just "Pat" and that ANOTHER P-38G was "Pat II"

[edwest2]

P-38G 43-2527 ‘56’ ‘Pat II’ flown by Col. Oliver B. Taylor CO of 14th FG United States Army Air Force based at Triolo Italy January 1944.

Found here: https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/...n-2019/page/4/

You'll have to scroll down a bit at this site which appears to have people with some good information

[Alex Smart]

Hello Wally,
have sent you an email.
hope it has worked OK
otherwise it will be next week

All thebest
Alex

[Frank Olynyk]

P-38s Stricken, September 10-18, 1943

Box 5889, Entry 7A, RG 18, 23rd Statistical Control Unit, Losses 1942-May 1944
C=combat loss, N=non-combat loss, U=unknown
This folder does not list the unit of the aircraft, or the pilot. MIA aircraft seem to be stricken on the day of loss; crash landings and salvaged aircraft can be several days later.
9/10 U Crash landing, 41-7608
9/11 U Crash landing, 43-2424
9/12 U Salvaged, 42-13200
9/13 N Destroyed by fire, 41-7564 [League?]
U Salvaged, 42-12834
9/15 C MIA, 43-2407 [MACR 707, 9/15, Ogle]
U Crash landing, 43-2464
U Crash landing, 42-13019 [Skinner, 9/15]
9/16 C MIA, 43-2338 [Pollock?]
C MIA, 43-2454 [Pollock?]
U Salvaged, 42-13196
U Crash landing, 42-13449 [Pollock?]
9/17 C MIA, 42-13398 [MACR 714, 9/18, Faust]
9/18 C MIA, 43-2410 [Neilson or Pollock]
C MIA, 43-2421 [MACR 975, 9/18, Lippert]
C MIA, 42-12721 [Neilson or Pollock]
C MIA, 42-12924 [MACR 715, 9/18, Rooney]

Enjoy!

Frank.

[wally7506]

Thanks very much, Frank!!!