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Chris Goss
28th December 2011, 18:33
Oblt Martin Vetter was awarded the DkiG with II/KG 51 in 1942 but is obviously not the same as Martin Vetter with KG 40. The former Vetter apparently went to III/KG 3 in late 1944-again, can anyone comment?

Nordpol54
28th December 2011, 19:32
Chris,

found Major Martin Vetter, 1. Januar 1945, Kommandeur of II./KG 51 at

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/Kampfgeschwader/KG51.htm

Could not find another one with same name and as DKiG-holder.

y/f
Norbert

Chris Goss
28th December 2011, 20:04
This is the problem. I have him as Gr Kdr of III/KG 3 from Feb 44 to Sep 44; III/KG 3 then becomes I/KG 53 to 6 Feb 45. Some records say he was Gr Kdr of II/KG 51 which became III/KG 3 in early 1944 but this does not match. He was with 4/KG 51 at some stage in late 1943-early 1944

Doug Stankey
29th December 2011, 08:19
Yes, there were two Martin Vetters in the bomber forces:

VETTER, Martin.
(DOB: 20.04.05 in Yabin/Deutsch-Neuguinea (New Guinea)).
Fall 1928 joined the Reichswehr.
(n.d.) served as an instructor with Inf.Rgt. 21.
10.33 trf to the Luftwaffe as an Oblt..
(n.d.) attended DVS Braunschweig for pilot training.
07.38 Hptm., appt Staka 1./KG 257.
01.05.39 Hptm., appt Staka 1./KG 26 (to 06.04.40).
26.09.39 flew his first mission, claiming a hit on HMS Hood in the North Sea (unlikely true).
06.04.40 Maj., appt Kdr. II./KG 26 (to 20.08.40).
16.05.40 Maj. and Kdr. II./KG 26, awarded the Ritterkreuz for leading his Gruppe on a number of successful attacks on Royal Navy surface units in the Firth of Forth and in the North Sea off Norway.
01.06.41 Maj., appt Kdr. I./Grosse-KFS 3 (to 28.06.42).
07.42 Obstlt., appt Kommodore KG 40 (to 01.09.43).
01.04.43 promo to Oberst.
02.09.43 trf to Führerreserve RLM/Ob.d.L.
11.44 Oberst, appt Kdr. Fsch.Jg.Rgt. 17 (to 11.03.45).
26.03.45? Maj., appt Kommandoführer Nachtschlachtkommando 9 (to war's end).
07.03.45 captured in the Wesel bridgehead.
†25.09.82 in Himmelpforten, Krs. Stade/Niedersachsen.
Credited with over 150 missions.

VETTER, Martin.
(DOB: 29.06.18).
02.04.42 Oblt. and pilot, awarded the Ehrenpokal.
27.07.42 Oblt., awarded DKG, II./KG 51.
15.02.43 appt Staka 12./KG 51 (to 22.12.43).
04.43 in II./KG 51. 01.12.43 promo to Hptm.
c.06.02.44 Hptm., appt Kdr. III./KG 3 (to 20.10.44).
15.10.44 Hptm., appt Kdr. I./KG 53 (to 04.45).
01.11.44 promo to Maj.
01.01.45 Maj., appt Kdr. II./KG 51 (to 06.02.45).

Bizarre but true.

We suppose that this clears things up somewhat.

HLdZ
DGS

Chris Goss
29th December 2011, 09:42
Thanks Doug. I think I have solved my problem with this chap in that a record has him with 4/KG 51 when it should have been Hptm Werner Duero. Doesn't help that there was apparently an Uffz Vetter in 4/KG 51