Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Mohra

[byron-]

Hello all,

has anyone ever heard of that unit?

Byron

[Larry deZeng]

Be sure and read the fine print, too:

http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergfagr.html (http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergfagr.html)
http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergobdh.html (http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergobdh.html)
http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergnagr.html (http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/ergnagr.html)

[byron-]

Thank you Larry,

I didn`t know that this unit ever visited Greece.
"I know one thing now, that I know nothing"

with the best regards
Byron

[Matti Salonen]

They even lost several aircraft:
1943-03-20, 1./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88A-5, (88)0742, Südlich Pilea (Saloniki), Hindernisberührung. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Fw Trautwein, Wolfgang, +
Beobachter Lt Wendt, Kurt, +
Bordfunker Uffz Creyaufmüller, Karl, +
Bordmechaniker Uffz Felger, Karl, +
1943-05-03, 1./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88D-1, (88)1712, Fl.Pl. Saloniki-Sedes, Absturz infolge Bedienungsfehler und Aufschlagbrand. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Galander, Werner, +
Beobachter Olt Rogati, Alfred, +
Bordfunker Gefr Spilker, Hans, +
Bordschütze Uffz Herget, Karl, +
1943-05-03, 3./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88A-5, (88)0383, Fl.Pl. Saloniki-Sedes, Absturz. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Jeutter, Friedrich, +
Bordschütze Uffz Stahl, Heinz, +
1943-05-05, 2./Erg.FAGr., Ju 88A-5, (88)0763, F2+LK, Ägäisches Meer, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Mödlhammer, Johann, vermißt
Beobachter Lt Harff, Günther, vermißt
Bordfunker Ogfr Lechner, Alois, vermißt
Bordschütze Ogfr Heinze, Kurt, vermißt

Matti

[RT]

"I know one thing now, that I know nothing"

But to add , Byron, that piece per piece , we know a bit more than nil,
quite an interesting piece that one

Rémi

[hanshauprich]

The correct spelling is "Weimar-Nohra" not Mohra! (Nohra is an suburban at the City of Weimar)

At 10. May 1940 the Erg./AGr. Weimar-Nohra used about 80 Fieseler Fi 156 for the Commandos Hedderich and Niwi.

Commando Hedderich flow with about 40 Fi 156 from Trier-Euren with men from "Großdeutschland" (Elite-Divison) to land in the early morning at positions in the Grand Dutchy of Luxembourg near the french border to support the german forces invaded France.

[byron-]

Hello Matti,

The losses you mentioned (i am ware of them) belonged to the Ergänzungs-Fernaufklärungsgruppe
with the following Kommanders:

Kdr. Erg. Aufkl.Gr.
? – 18.11.42 Major d.R. Hans-Günther von Obernitz,
16.12.43 – 15.01.44 Obstlt. Hans-Günther von Obernitz,
16.01.44 – 27.12.44 Obstlt. Gerhard Kopper


Larrys link shows an Ergänzungs-Nahaufklärungsgruppe with differend Kommanders:


Obstlt Wolfgang Wehl, 10.4.42 - 26.4.42
Maj Hans Haack, 27.4.42 - 17.6.42
Oberst Günther Menzel, 18.6.42 - 21.4.43
Hptm Otto-Heinrich Lang, 22.4.43 - 7.6.44

I think Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsgruppe Weimar-Nohra was a different unit then Ergänzungs-Fernaufklärungsgruppe.


Remi, you are right, step by step we are geting a little wiser



Byron

[Matti Salonen]

Erg.FAGr. had on 1 March 1943:
35 Ju 88, 2 Do 17, 2 Do 215 and 1 Fi 156
Erg.NAGr. had on 1 March 1943:
23 Hs 126, 19 FW 189, 10 Bf 110, 6 Fi 156 and 4 Do 17
Also, Erg.FAGr. was located at Fl.Pl. Weimar-Nohra and Erg.NAGr. at Fl.Pl. Bromberg.
Therefore, based on the attached extract in your first message, only Erg.FAGr. is possible. This unit has been called sometimes also Erg.AGr.Posen (Fl.Pl. Posen was its location after Weimar-Nohra).

Matti

[byron-]

Dear Matti,

Thank you, the issue is now very clear to me.

Byron