Ju52 NO+JJ/IJ/II

[RT]

This plane crashed on end of april, beg. of mai 1941, hv anybody, the Wn corresponding to these STKZ ,???

Rémi

[Matti Salonen]

NO+IJ was 2977 and was destroyed in Feb 1943. Therefore, the following might be your plane NO+II:
1941-04-22, Fl.Kp./Ln.-Rgt. 38, Ju 52/3m, 2976, Westlich Kumanowo, Absturz bei Notlandung. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Dahlmann, Herbert, +
Bordfunker Uffz Vogt, Wilhelm, +
Bordmechaniker Fw Sobotta, Franz, +
Fluggast Tech.Ob.Insp. Dorsch, Wilhelm, +
? Gefr Sobotta, Franz

Matti

[RT]

I thought also to that one , but I was a bit puzzled because 297x serie was in my mind made of planes built before sept. 1939, but in fact they were from Oct.40, so the right STKZ is NO+II, many planes in the NN+ nd to a lower extend NO+ were used by the Ln.Rgt, wonder if a special serie was made for the Ln boys...:D
To add also that the NO+IJ hv been interned in Schweden in 1941, but dont know the exact period ...

Rémi

[Stig Jarlevik]

Remi

WNr 2977 NO+IJ was a Courier aircraft which force landed in Sweden 24 Feb 1943 at Lekvattnet near Torsby in Värmland (county). The pilot Ofw Lothar Gall made a very credible landing in the small clearing but the aircraft was of course damaged. After dismantling it was taken to Torsby and probably stored there for quite awhile. Torsby incidentally is the place where the Swedish football couch Sven Göran Eriksson grew up....
It was finally taken to Västerås and scrapped in October 1949.

Cheers
Stig

[RT]

Probably IJ, made a forced-landing sooner, as a "civil"plane, flying from Norway to Finnland , with weapons nd Wehrmacht members

Rémi

[Stig Jarlevik]

Well Remi, then you know more than the researchers of all these incidents in Sweden during WW 2. Nothing is impossible, and of course if they were on a registered trip (civil that is), there would probably not be any record of that.
But interened? Not very likely since there then would be some documentation preserved.

How come you are so certain it went down in Sweden in 1941 and was sent back?

Cheers
Stig

[RT]

Probably, I know a fair lot of things less than the official researchers , the accident at the time was judged considerable, because the overflight of neutral country was just granted to "civil" planes, transporting civilist ,nd checking my Source the date is really the 24.Febr., nothing occured in 1941:o
By the way the Wn 2977 was one more time lost on 4.Oct.43:confused:

Rémi

[gogh]

Hi Remi

WNr.2977 seems to be "repaired" with parts from WNr.1330 This info comes from this site or/and the LEMB.

Regards

Peter van Gogh

[RT]

Thks for the data, nd where this 1330 is coming from ??

Rémi

[gogh]

Hi Remi
-LW Pohjoinen Sivusta from Hannu Valtonen
-LEMB
-12OClock give this micro film
-Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22
-BA-MA RL 2 III/1194 -1943-10-03 to -1943-11-02
-http://www.geocities.ws/hjunkers
When my memory is correct is was on this board that WNr.1330 was mentioned.

Peter

[RT]

Thks, Peter, Wonder how looks the doc...


Rémi