Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hello Rasmussen,

Hv you more data on the loss of the 30.july ??

Remi


But maybe is JG26 concerned ??

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hello Remi,

unfortunately not and JG 26 ... I don't believe it because at this time the JG 26 used Fw 190 IMHO.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

You are obviously right, I thought to JG26 because the unit lost a lot of planes that day over Holland, the III.Gr. using the 109, lost also 1 plane, near Cleve, II.JG2 seems to hv lost just one plane

4 JG2 F Scheldemündung /Woensdrecht start aus ? A LFK B17 n, erste angriff wird v, P47 verjagdt BF109G-6 15282 We11 100 x Brose willi ofw 68420/200-f-240921-Neumartinshagen krs Schlawe

Is a more accurate place known for that one ??

Remi

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

I have following on Brose.

Brose, W. Uffz 4/JG-2 Bf 109G-6 Werk # 15282 (lost 7/43) Fighter Operational Clasp Shot down 30 July, 1943 in Wk# 15282 at Hummelo Holland, NW of Doetinchem, pilot disposition unknown.

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hummelo is the place I've found on the SGLO website too. Is this place sure - for example by an excavation? I ask because regarding KTB Gilze-Rijen Brose was lost by Valburg roundabout 40 km west from Hummelo (unfortunately I wasn't able to read the name so good but I'd guess it was Valburg).

On this day I'd guess II./ JG 2 lost one machine more because Brose and "Pormann" were mentioned seperate.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hello,
It is 100% sure that Uffz Willi Brose crashed near Hummelo!!
Sources: VM and Municipal Archive of Hummelo en Keppel, excavation of a/c parts by ARGA.
Uffz Elte crashed at Valburg. (8./JG 54)
Regards
Karl Lusink
ARGA

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hello,
Uffz Brose was buried at Arnhem-Zijpendaal ("Ehrenfriedhof")
In 1948 reburied at Ysselsteyn in grave BN-3-67
Regards
Karl Lusink

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hv you found the "Pormann" in the same doc , ???

Remi

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hello,
For 30-07-1943 I have:
10./JG 2 Fw Rudolf Holzmann MIA Schelde
9./JG 11 Lt Gerhard Hollmann
Crashed at Olst-Fortmond KIA
buried Arnhem-Zijpendaal reburied Yselsteyn:BN-3-68
I never found a Lt Pormann!!
REgards
Karl Lusink
ARGA

Re: Bf109 crash Rockanje, Holland 02-08-1943
 

Hello Remi,

the KTB Gilze - Rijen mentioned the crash and the Lt. "Pormann". This name is my personal interpretation because I was unable to read the name for sure (like I wrote the hand writing was bad). The KTB mentioned that he was light injured not KIA or MIA.

Best wishes
Rasmussen