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Allan125 17th June 2014 11:47

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Hello Snautzer

Thanks - it looks really good now, and thank you most sincerely for all of your work on the September 1944 losses.

Allan

Allan125 17th June 2014 13:10

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Hello Snautzer

Just noticed another one - the 855 Squadron Avenger JZ490 loss on 4 September would be from the Royal Navy, not the RAF, I only found the one, so not sure how many you have on the website?

Operating with Coastal Command, but not part of the RAF - see http://www.royalnavyresearcharchive....m#.U6AhJiVOVjo

regards

Allan

Snautzer 17th June 2014 14:09

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
The "De Studiegroep Luchtoorlog 1939-1945 (SGLO)" noted i think only this one.

Allan125 17th June 2014 14:26

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Hello Snautzer

They are probably correct - the squadrons had more losses earlier in the Invasion period.

So, hopefully, only the one to amend.

regards

Allan

John Beaman 17th June 2014 16:33

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Guys,

Avenger RN stuff is great info, but we are way off subject here with the thread. Would you like me to split it off in a separate, new thread?

Allan125 17th June 2014 23:49

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Hello John

It is probably the only RN Avenger on the map "The "De Studiegroep Luchtoorlog 1939-1945 (SGLO)" noted i think only this one" but it is relevant as it was lost over Holland in September 1944, and it was operating under control of Coastal Command, which of course was RAF, and no thread split is necessary IMHO.

cheers

Allan

Snautzer 19th June 2014 14:07

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Well i cant be 100 % sure but i think this could be the wreck of 855 Squadron Avenger JZ490 passing through Voorschoten.

Allan125 19th June 2014 19:59

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Hello Snautzer

thanks for the update

Well, it certainly looks like one - any idea when the photo was taken at all?

See http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=50189
where it states fatalities 0, but then lists Lt (A ) D.C. Scott, Royal Navy, pilot, killed. and I have found this link about him, his crew, and mission:-

http://www.eboards4all.com/683387/messages/1049.html and some more info here

http://www.eboards4all.com/683387/messages/1050.html and it has also found fame as a 1/72 scale model, by Hobby Master http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/1612_1_105482570.html

Allan

Hans Nauta 20th June 2014 12:47

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
Hi Snautzer and Allan,

Sorry to disturb your enthousiasm about the Avenger wreck, but first of all JZ490 crashed into the North Sea, secondly the wreckage on the picture isn't passing at all, but put there on purpose. It seems to me a postwar emergency exercise and the wreckage appears to be an obsolete Avenger of the Dutch Navy, at that time being located on the nearby airfield Valkenburg.

Regards,
Hans

Snautzer 20th June 2014 13:31

Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map
 
I live nearby nearby airfield Valkenburg so that option had crossed my mind. It could have been a Bescherming Bevolking drill. Probably is.


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