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Old 11th June 2014, 12:46
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RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

Data credits can be found here: http://www.studiegroepluchtoorlog.nl/
Map September 1944: http://batchgeo.com/map/328adfb365e3...bb29be079ed952

All the interactive maps contain data on more levels be it location, airplane type etc. All searchable strings ( like i.g. day fighter or a date.) in a map can be found by clicking on a single pin on a map see pic 1.
  • Option 1 Search bar. Enter the required search string into the google like search bar.
  • Option 2 The coloured circle. This means there is a cluster of events. By clicking on this a more zoomed in view will appear. Repeat when needed.
  • Option 3 The pins at the bottom of the map.(Red high lighted circle) The are the dividers I used to project the data. By clicking on it you will get all event concerning that item. So by clicking pin "Bomber" all crashed bomber locations with data will appear.
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Old 12th June 2014, 00:46
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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

Nice job

A minor comment: rather than call your classification 'role', call it type. It will be a better description, because some of your Stirling listed as bomber losses were in fact transports. And the reconnaissance Spitfire losses are listed as fighters.
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Old 12th June 2014, 13:40
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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

i changed role to type

and made Usaaf losses for September 1944.

http://batchgeo.com/map/ae8ba286cddc...b0a4a711f60661
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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

Hello Schnautzer,

First of all: what a good idea to build such a map, gives an impressive look on the many crashes!
Secondly, I looked (of course) to the crashes near my hometown Venlo and saw a new RAF unit: 3./Nachtschlacht Gruppe 2 which of course should be a Luftwaffe loss.

Keep up the good work, best regards, Marcel
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Old 13th June 2014, 16:28
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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

Hello Schnautzer

An excellent website - my late father served with 125 Wing HQ, and was amongst the first there in the advance party of the ground echelon when the RAF took over at Grave/Keent.

My only suggestions are:

change Liasson to Liaison and all the Stirlings lost around the Arnhem area that I have checked were from 38 Group RAF, and would have been on glider towing and supply drop missions and were not bombers.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operati...rder_of_battle for a list of the Stirling squadrons operating in the transport role.

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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

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change Liasson to Liaison
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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

Thanks - and can you remove the Stirling IV's from Bombers and place them in Transports along with the C47/Dakotas, as they were not equipped for bombing - only glider tug and supply drop missions.

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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

L.S.,

On the 5th of September 1944 TWO (not one) Spitfires of the 310 were lost near Breukelen. Numbers MA225 and MH616 were hit by flak while in a group of three attacking a (heavily defended) barge transport in the Amsterdam-Rijnkanaal. Both Czech pilots. One Spitfire 'crashed near Utrecht' with the pilot having to parachute out being caught and ending up as POW. The other emergency-landed 'south of Amsterdam' with the pilot returning back to liberated territory assisted by resistance in December of that year. Big problem still: where precisely did one plane crash and the other emergency-land? To make things more easy: Breukelen is 'south of Amsterdam' and 'near Utrecht'....

For the Dutch amongst us: the 5th of September 1944 is 'mad Tuesday' (dolle dinsdag).

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Old 17th June 2014, 09:42
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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

Hello Snautzer

Thank you for making the changes from Bomber to Transport for the Stirling IV losses - however, on my copy this morning it still shows "Liasson" though, so it would seem your change of 14 June did not work?

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Re: RAF losses over Holland september 1944 map

Changed it again. Thank you for correction.

http://batchgeo.com/map/328adfb365e3...bb29be079ed952
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