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I would not be so quick to dismiss Joe Baugher without evidence. His site was recently taken over by an individual who is unknown to me. Mr. Baugher has also passed away.
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I don't dismiss anyone Ed.
Baughers site is a very good tool to begin any research in US military aircraft. But as far as I know he did not make any research into any IARC or US Navy cards either. If he had, there would have been much, much more information available. I also know who has taken over his site. I also know people who are very good at understanding these cards and at least one of them is with us at TOCH. Cheers Stig |
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Stig this is from the 468BG records, wouldn't you know it gives the date as Jan. 14, her last mission (no.28); the number of missions is apparently right, 2 "Hump" and 16 bombing. As you say Mann lists her on 28 but not 29, as does this inventory.
Just add it to the "mystery" list! Regards Nick https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=...61506889447728 |
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Well Nick
Just as you said before. No bid deal. In this case it seems only to interest You and me....;) Cheers Stig |
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Stig,
This person who took over Joe Baugher's site, what has he done? Has he increased entries by 10%? 50%? |
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Honestly Ed
No idea! I have downloaded what I need and haven't compared. From what I gathered at the time he simply ment to keep it alive and perhaps add new FY data. It didn't sound as he would improve any historic data, thus not interesting to me personally Cheers Stig |
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Stig,
A wholly inadequate reply. |
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Glad you liked it Ed, ha, ha, ha:rolleyes:
Stig |
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POST 89.
1. Most likely 374TCG / 322TCW on Luzon 1945; the 33rd. Sqn. had a red arrow behind the cockpit with a yellow "322TCW" inside, plus white cowl markings and rudder tab. This Sqn. adopted Native American names like Cherokee and Osage. 2. B-29 505BG on Tinian 1945, tail designator Circle "W" and green tip. Group insignia black-white-yellow. 3. 67FS badge with final victory total completed in P-38s; 22.5 shown here but USAF Study 85 awards 23 total. Finished war on Palawan PI; first victory 24 Aug. 1942 (Guadalcanal) last over Singapore 4 Aug. 1945. 4. P-39Q "S" code is Rice AAF CA (others were S-15, S-36, S-63) where 339FG trained Sept. 43--March 44 (note post-July 43 insignia). Previously based at Walterboro AAF SC (code "F") where if the serial is correct she crashed on Nov.11 43. 5. Looks like a P-400 with very early RAF-style camouflage, undersides too light for Neutral Grey so US Sky Type "S" Grey? the coloured nose ring suggests US- based squadron common at the time 41--42. Regards Nick |
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Sorry Ed, completely missed the caption--"New Caledonia from Fiji"; so could be 67FS P-400s as they were delivered to Fiji in crates then sent to N. Caledonia where the 67FS and 65th Material Sqn. assembled and tested them at Tontouta. N. Caledonia was the distribution Centre for fighter aircraft in S. Pacific. Markings maybe left over from US. ?
Photo 4. Not actually taken at Rice as that was on the edge of the Mojave Desert in S. California, part of Camp Granite (see picture). More likely at Walterboro but retaining 339FG designator, they certainly used "S". Nick added some details. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert...nter_-_map.png |
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Thanks Nick.
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POST 93.
B-29 "Shrewd Maneuver" 44-83905 (331BG) NW Field Guam, tail designator Diamond "L" (call sign Slicker 09). Looks to be at Harmon Field Guam, built by 25th. Seabees as an aircraft depot and maintainance centre. Their air echelon arrived Guam 23 June 45 so only flew 4 missions Aug.1--14th. against oil targets in Japan. Scrapped post-war. (one source says this is 44-83937 but this was Slicker 48 "Nosmo King" in Group inventory). Nick |
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B-29 42-24912 (29BG N. Field Guam from Feb. 45) "Oily Boid"; name refers to her regular leaks. Believed also called "City of Michigan City" on right side as per 314th Wing practice which must be the one in Indiana. Survived war but in bad state; one source says abandoned on Iwo Jima. Tail marking Square "O", sometimes in yellow late war. Nick |
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Thanks again Nick.
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Both are 793BS / 468BG, based Kharagpur in India until moved to W. Field Tinian in 1945. Both survived to be scrapped post-war. "Bengal Lancer" (reference to India) 42-24487; in India had 2 dark blue rudder stripes (sqn. colour) and blue star in comet both sides. On Tinian was Triangle "I" /32. "Wichita Witch" 42-24442 (built at Boeing-Wichita) markings as above but Tinian number probably 29. Most 468th B-29s had the "Billy Mitchell" group insignia on tails, his personal House Flag awarded to the Group to recognise their excellent record. 487 had crew chief's choice "Lula Belle" on nose. Nick |
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Well done Nick.
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Ed; a couple of notes. The 468BG emblem was based on Mitchell's sailing burgee (flag); "The Lives of a Bengal Lancer" film aired in 1935 starring Gary Cooper.
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Outstanding. Thank you.
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Ed. Almost interesting fact. There was a second B-29 "Bengal Lancer" in India named from the movie, 42-6348/E (40BG Chakulia then Tinian); also a 339FG P-51D at Fowlmere, same name but this was dedicated to the Bloomfield High School NJ "Bengals".
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That was interesting. Thanks.
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Thanks Ed. This is B-25J 44-29590 "My Buck" (name and pin-up on left side) -17th. RS "Reckoners" (reference to recon.) / 71st.RG on Ie Shima July-Oct. 45; pilot Capt. Link Piazzo. The insignia dates to May 43 but sun-rays were added plus 5 stars for Fifth AF. Delivered unpainted she had camo. added with an unusual colour division. White lower tail is 17th. marking.
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