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Chris Goss 5th April 2009 12:12

Oblt Lorenz
 
Does anyone have a mention of an Oblt Lorenz being lost with KGr 606/I/KG 77 some time in 1942?

Brian Bines 5th April 2009 14:22

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
All I could find was a mention in 'K' 367/1942 ( 3Z+BL shot down 9-11-42) which identifies a Hpt. Lorenz as a St/kap of 1/KG77.

Chris Goss 5th April 2009 15:08

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
That would be him-I wonder if it was Hptm Herbert Lorenz?

Doug Stankey 5th April 2009 20:34

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
We have a ton of Lorenz's.

As for Herbert Lorenz we have:

LORENZ, Herbert. (DOB: 17.05.06). 01.04.42 promo to Maj.
LORENZ, Herbert. 01.03.42 promo to Hptm.(Tr.O.). 27.04.42 Hptm., awarded Ehrenpokal. 16/17.06.44 Hptm. in 1./NJG 2, KIA – shot down or crashed into the sea east of Cancale on the north coast of Brittany.

Neither seems to be your man.
A search of the Lorenz's reveals none apparently associated with KGr. 606 or KG 77.


LdZ
DGS

Chris Goss 6th April 2009 20:10

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
Thanks Gentlemen. I have 2 more Lorenz-Helmut promoted to Hptm 1 Apr 42 & & Gerhard promoted to Hptm 1 Feb 42?

Doug Stankey 6th April 2009 20:50

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
We have one Gerhard Lorenz:

LORENZ, Gerhard.
(DOB: 1906).
16.07.40 POW???
01.02.42 promo to Hptm.
1942 in 5./KG 27.
01.11.42 appt Kdr. Störkampfgruppe Luftwaffenkommando Don (to 13.03.43).


Maybe this is two guys?

LdZ
DGS

Chris Goss 6th April 2009 22:06

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
The first one was taken POW with III/KG 26 so maybe 2 guys but what about Helmut?

Chris Goss 29th December 2020 11:06

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
After nearly 12 years, this guy is still vexing me but thanks to Matti I might be closer. Herbert Lorenz who was killed with 1./NJG 2 was with 3./806 in April 1940 probably at the time they were converting to Ju 88s. He then reappears in April 1942 as a Hptm when he gets the EP. So we have the Ju 88 & Küstenfliegergruppe connection and that he was still operational in April 1942 but not with III./KG 54 (which 806 would become)

BABIN 29th December 2020 13:44

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
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Hello,

10 years ago I wrote an article in the French magazine "AVIONS", which related the rescue, on 8th of November 1940, of the crew of a KG 26 He111, whose the observer was Oblt. zur Zee Helmut LORENZ.

I attached to this message the copy of the page of the article in which I briefly related the military career of this officer. May be is he your man ?

Pierre Babin

Chris Goss 29th December 2020 14:39

Re: Oblt Lorenz
 
Different man-this Lorenz was a torpedo man who then joined the Luftwaffe and KG 26


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