2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Hi
This is my first time on this forum as i have drawn a blank with some research into an incident in WW11 on 16th Feb 1944 and am hoping that some of your members can help.
On this date Wildcats from HMS Biter on convoy duty in the Atlantic shot down a Junkers 290 just after 10am and then in the afternoon another JU290 was shot down this time by a Beafighter directed by HMS Biter.
I am really keen to know the exact identity of the two JU290's that were shot down, where they were based, the crews and whether any crew from either plane survived.
Any info or pointers would be appreciated.

Cheers
Chris

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Chris: This has been aired before on this forum-2 Ju 290s from Fernaufklaerungsgruppe 5 were lost this day-one as you indicated and one to 235 Sqn. I will send you crew details later tonight

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Ju 290 A-5, 9V+DK, Wk Nr 0177 of 2/FAG 5. Hptm Karl-Friedrich Bergen, Oblt Kurt Baumgartner, Lt Martin Gloeckelhofer, Ofw Heinz Felleckner, Fw Heinz Schacht, Lt Gottfried Beninde, Ofw Ludwig Ebner, Uffz Jakob Daniel, Werner Cordes, Ogefr Josef Neubauer & Ogefr Karl Zink was shot down by Erikson/Dimes of 811 Sqn.

Ju 290 A-5, 9V+FH, 0175 of 1/FAG 5. Lt Eberhard Elfert, Lt Albert Pape, Ofw Conrad Oberhauser, Ofw Albert Holzmann, Uffz Rudolf Dreissig, Ofw Otto Zech, Ofw Wilhelm Hausmann, Ofw Gustav Schlatthaus, Fw Erich Barlau & Ogefr Albert Pfeffer was shot down by Wright/Ross 235 Sqn.

Both aircraft were based at Mont de Marsan

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Chris
Many thanks, all the info i was after in a matter of hours. Your kind help is very much appreciated. Just two points. Firstly is it possible to determine the base from which 235 Squadron were operating and secondly is there any reason why one Junkers had a crew of ten and the other a crew of eleven?

Cheers
Chris

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Cordes, who was a Technical Official, was probably a passenger and 235 sqn was based at Portreath

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

It was 235 Sqn's detachment at St Angelo who was responsible. Would very much like to know the serial number of the Beaufighter. The ORB does not list it.
Tony K

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Chris and tony
Thank you once again for your quick answers to my question. Much appreciated

Chris

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Hello Chris, Tony and Bailey.
This thread interested me because there is an Oblt Kurt Baumgartner on the crew of the Ju 290 A-5, 9V+DK, Wk Nr 0177 of 2/FAG 5 whose captain was Hptm Karl-Friedrich Bergen. Do you have more information about this airman?
Was he the Beobachter? Chris Goss, do you have his LW service number or any information about his backgrounds? ( If he served with other LW recon units, for example )? I am gathering information about the Baumgartners in the Second World War and would appreciate any new information about this airman.
Thanks for both of you
Adriano Baumgartner

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Sorry Adriano there is nothing more I can add

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Dear Chris,
Saw this old thread, I'm in touch with the "Wright" family as I knew both Ron and Pat aand should be receiving copies of Paddy Wrights log book and photos within the next two months - if its any help?
Kind Regards
Andrew Bird
Registrar 235 Sqn
Author - A Separate Little War

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Andy: I too was in touch with him about his 2 combats but he never mentioned photos but if there is anything of interst, do get in touch. His other kill was 9 Jun 44 a Ju 88 A-4 of Wekusta 51

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Hi Chris, Tony & Baily,

Just received copies of the first log book of Ronny Wright, (1940 early 1941) should get the remaining page some time next week for the Beau?Ju.

Andy Bird

Re: 2 Junkers 290 shot down 16th Feb 1944
 

Andy ,
S/Ldr Wright's log I believe will only list " Beau C" and no serial number and the ORB lists it as Beaufighter "N". No nearer I am afraid.
Tony K