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arnaud 16th April 2012 11:23

Bf 109 Piece
 
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Hello, could anyone identify this piece found in Ardennes (North of France)?

"323/D343
Th. Klatte, Bremen-Huchfing"

arnaud 17th April 2012 15:37

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Hello again,

The black stuff is a kind of hard leather!

Read "Huchting": a town near Bremen. Is there a aircraft factory there?

I found on the web in a list of reparations plants from US zone: "Land Bremen. War plants. Theodor Klatte, Huchting near Bremen, plant, aircraft."

Brian Bines 17th April 2012 15:54

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Only a guess could it be the leather lining the wheel housing or from the Joystick base ?

arnaud 17th April 2012 15:54

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I add this too found on the web in a list of prisoner camps in Germany:

Name : Camp VII : ESTERWEGEN
Type of commando : PAPENBURG (outside Kommando from EMSLAND)
Activities : North Camp: factory RUGES, aircraft factory KLATTE in Bremen and firma HUCHTING

But what types of aircraft (parts of the Me 323...?)?

arnaud 17th April 2012 15:57

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Brian,

I didn't think of it: good idea...

harrison987 17th April 2012 16:04

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That is not Me109....

Probably Me323...

Mike

Andy Saunders 17th April 2012 19:54

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No. I would say more likely Bramo 323 engine. Almost cerrainly so.

Any Do 17-Z crashes in the area?

I have found very similar parts and plates. Those that I found were manufactured by the Eberspacher company and were parts of an exhaust flame-damping system.

Andy Saunders 20th April 2012 13:58

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Arnaud...

Your thoughts on my suggestions about this piece?

harrison987 20th April 2012 15:57

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AH!

I know what it is...

It is part of the heat shield that goes behind each clinder of the Bramo 323. I did not recognize it, as it is such a smal piece of it.

But 100% that is what it is...

Mike

harrison987 20th April 2012 16:04

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http://www.me-109.com/1230z.JPG

Andy Saunders 20th April 2012 19:33

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Yes, that's it! well done Harrison.

Just as I suspected.

The number immediately made sense, and I knew I recognised the item it was fixed to.

You have a Dornier 17, Arnaud.

arnaud 21st April 2012 12:06

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So so great...

Thank you very much, guys...

The piece was found isolated by a girl many years ago a couple of kilometres away in the East of Rethel (France).

600 meters away from that there, I have a crash site probably from May or June 1940 where was found this piece :
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=29388

I will make researches about a Dornier 17 shot down East Rethel in May or June 1940 and find the crash site : no more direct witness!

Bon vol

Andy Saunders 21st April 2012 13:22

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Then the lens makes sense. I am sure this is from a Lotfe bombsight; hence Dornier 17 also makes sense!

KrisJG3 11th July 2013 15:27

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Esterwegen Camp - now museum:
http://www.gedenkstaette-esterwegen.de/

ClinA-78 11th July 2013 16:04

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any news from our friend Arnaud?


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