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Xerumbe 14th March 2017 02:34

Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
Hello,
I need help identifying the items in the following photos. They belong to my archives and they are the only ones for which I am not sure of the proper identification. I apologize for the awful copyright that appears but I intend them for future publication.
I thank you for the help you can bring me.

JF

1- http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_650592FW190.jpg

2- http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/m...W190Hangar.jpg

3- http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_341254Me109.jpg

4- http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_670877Me110.jpg

5- http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_329748Gotha.jpg

6- http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_571713JU88.jpg

7- http://img4.hostingpics.net/thumbs/m...109Roumain.jpg

Mark Proulx 14th March 2017 03:34

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
FWIW, I did purchase a copy of the same Bf 110 image (4). On the reverse it shows ECPA Photo with a note that Reproduction Forbidden. It gives a reference number of DAA 1265 L 30. Sorry, I can't add any particulars to the image.

Mark Proulx

Xerumbe 14th March 2017 10:22

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
Hi Mark,

I think most of these photos are at the ECPAD ... This organization has copyright on most documents without checking if there are originals. This creates many conflicts. To publish, we must now proceed prudently.

udf_00 14th March 2017 12:40

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
n°7 Appeared in AIRMAG Hors serie n°1 on p15 as a Bf 109 E-3 of the 7th Fighter Group (Photo ECPA)

Modeldad 14th March 2017 14:53

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
You cannot copyright those pictures if you did not take them, or legally did not get the copyright from the person who did.

Xerumbe 14th March 2017 15:57

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
You are absolutely right. I'm thinking about that now. These problematic photos are for two reasons: lack of exclusive use and lack of intellectual property. Henceforth I must consider myself as owner of the photographs of which I have the original negative. Fortunately, I have a number of them.
That said, I still have not answered the question of identification ...

researcher111 14th March 2017 16:29

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
The JU 88 seems to be a forced landing near Sevastopol sometime in 1943

Ian Jewison 14th March 2017 16:46

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
The Romanian Bf 109 is Grupul 7 (Escadrila 56; 57; 58) - Group 7 (Squadron 56; 57; 58)

Romanian Air Force Bf 109E of 58 Esc, Grupul 7, before take off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORsGrWD3v6g

JoMe 15th March 2017 13:29

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
Hi

The Bf 109 G-2 belonged to 6./JG 51.

best wishes
JoMe

RudiS 15th March 2017 14:42

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by researcher111 (Post 230763)
The JU 88 seems to be a forced landing near Sevastopol sometime in 1943

Are you sure? The background looks like France, Belgium or The Netherlands to me. The a/c also doesn't seem to have a yellow theatre band.

Regards,
Rudi.

Chris Goss 15th March 2017 14:48

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
In respect of photo 6, taken from my forthcoming book:

Sitting on the beach near Calais is Ju 88 A-5 F, Wk Nr 0495 coded VG+DS of 3.(F)/11. In the mid-afternoon of 24 March 1941, Plt Off Bob Spurdle and Sgt Bill Dales of 74 Sqn were patrolling off Ramsgate when they spotted a lone Ju 88 flying south-west. Both pilots gave chase with Spurdle opening fire after which the Ju 88 turned towards France in a shallow dive. Bill Dales now chased but was disappointed when the German aircraft entered cloud. However, when they both emerged from cloud, he was only 300 yards behind so he immediately opened fire, closing to 200 yards, breaking away to starboard and then attacking from that side and from below. Firing a two second burst, he saw bullets entering the fuselage and noticed the port wheel was slightly down and both engines were emitting white and brown smoke. When Bill broke off six miles off the French coast, the German aircraft was just above the surface of the sea and the engines appeared to be "...only ticking over...". Both RAF pilots returned to RAF Manston in Kent and all that they claimed was a Ju 88 probably destroyed. Ofw Gerhard Lilienthal (F) and Ofw Johann Reiniecken (BF) were both wounded and the aircraft was so badly damaged that it never flew again. Wk Nr 0495 first flew at Bernburg on 30 September 1940 and was so new on its unit that codes had not been applied .

Norbert Schuchbauer 15th March 2017 15:10

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
GQM reports on 21-12-41 with Ber. e) [correction e)] that Ofw Lilienthal and Ofw Reinicken were corrected from wounded to unhurt. They must have recovered from wounds and maybe back to flying status.

Regards,
Norbert

John Vasco 17th March 2017 22:25

Re: Photographs to be identified / Need help.
 
After close examination, the Bf 110 is a 'D' variant. A very rare bird indeed - radar on such an early variant...


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