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knusel 19th July 2016 12:47

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
...I'm still very intrested in Lambert's SG77 score.

Cheers,

Michael

Jim Oxley 26th August 2016 09:49

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Luv these aces by aircraft threads Knusel.

Do you have a list of Bf 109 aces?

knusel 26th August 2016 10:10

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
...I'll send it to you

Cheers,

Michael

knusel 10th November 2017 11:20

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good morning Gentlemen,

I wonder who is the top scoring ace of the Fw 190D subtype.
This website says it's Hans Dortenmann:
http://luftwaffe.cz/dortenmann.html
However, according to unit equipment data Anton Hackl might have a higher Fw 190D score, with 25 kills achieved in that type:
http://luftwaffe.cz/hackl.html

Cheers,

Michael

cheesin 11th November 2017 08:08

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Hi,knusel

Dortenmann's Fw 190D score is clear ,even convincing.
The key question is,whether Anton Hackl ‘ last 12 score is 'valid' or not.As the score list show,his records are maddeningly vague as to details after he and his JG 11 transfered to the eastern front in Jan 1945...so bewildering

Leo Etgen 11th November 2017 21:40

Top Fw 190 aces
 
Hi guys

Another fellow that I have seen mentioned as perhaps being the top or one of the top Dora-9 aces is Fahnenjunker-Oberfeldwebel Heinz Marquardt of 13./JG 51 who is reputed to have claimed 22 victories in April 1945 and one on 1 May 1945 at a time when IV./JG 51 was equipped with Fw 190 A-8 and Fw 190 D-9 fighters. Unfortunately, as with Major Anton Hackl, it is not known which type(s) he flew when achieving these. Personally, at the current point in time and based on the available evidence I would say that Oberleutnant Hans Dortenmann is the verified holder of the title.

Horrido!

Leo

Johannes 14th November 2017 14:56

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Hi Guys

I think Josten claimed all of his victories flying the Fw190.

Johannes

knusel 15th November 2017 14:43

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good afternoon Johannes,

Günther Josten scored 78 kills in a period when I./JG51 was equipped with the Bf109G (Mar 1944-Mar 1945).
I would be very interesting in the plane type flown by him on 5Feb1944 and between 3Apr1945 and 22Apr1945.

Cheers,

Michael

cheesin 26th November 2017 02:42

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo Etgen (Post 242554)
Hi guys

Another fellow that I have seen mentioned as perhaps being the top or one of the top Dora-9 aces is Fahnenjunker-Oberfeldwebel Heinz Marquardt of 13./JG 51 who is reputed to have claimed 22 victories in April 1945 and one on 1 May 1945 at a time when IV./JG 51 was equipped with Fw 190 A-8 and Fw 190 D-9 fighters. Unfortunately, as with Major Anton Hackl, it is not known which type(s) he flew when achieving these. Personally, at the current point in time and based on the available evidence I would say that Oberleutnant Hans Dortenmann is the verified holder of the title.

Horrido!

Leo

Hi,
It seems that Heinz Marquardt of 13./JG 51 had 6 confirmed 109D-9 victories ,from 24 April 1945 to 1 May, as based on Jerry Crandall
Regards

knusel 27th November 2017 19:42

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good evening cheesin,

this seems reasonable. Like you, I don't think he received the Fw 190D earlier than his Gruppenkommandeur Günther Josten.
That makes a Fw 190D score of 7-12 of which the following 7 can be identified:
  • 25,4.45 Yak-3
  • 25,4.45 Yak-3
  • 25,4.45 Yak-3
  • 25,4.45 Yak-3
  • 27,4.45 Yak-3
  • 29,4.45 Il-2
  • 1,5.45 Spitfire
Is there any info regarding the equipment of IV./JG51 in the first half of Apr45 ?

Cheers,

Michael


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