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Old 26th October 2015, 17:54
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Top Fw 190 aces

Dear gentlemen,

this list compiles all aces with 100 or more Fw 190 kills. Enjoy.
I would be very intrested in the exact Fw 190 score of Wolf, Tegtmeier,Sterr, and Brendel.
Michael
1. Kittel 246
2. Nowotny 198
3. Lang 173
4. Rudorffer 170
5. Ademeit 135
6. Wolf ~125
7. Thyben 120
8. Eisenach 120
9. Tegtmeier ~119
10.Lambert 116
11.Schack 114
12.Weber 114
13.Wernicke 114
14.Sterr ~112
15.Wernitz 101
16.Brendel ~100
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Old 26th October 2015, 20:14
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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

From Fighter Aces of the Luftwaffe by Toliver & Constable ( 1977 ) I have Brendal with 189, Sterr with 130, Tegtmaier with 146, and Albin Wolf with 154.

These are their totals and not broken out by fighter aircraft. Some of us invest in books like the Osprey collections that render different breakouts of scores, like Fw190 totals, including Eastern, Mediterranean, and Western fronts, as well as Defence of the Reich. Breakouts there include Fw190 totals apart from other fighter aircraft.

Again not perfect since without log books it may never be known what aircraft they flew when scoring victories. Authors have attempted to correlate this by the timeline of the group they flew with and what type of aircraft the group was assigned.

I use LEMB, LRG and Kacha’s Luftwaffe page although it has not been updated in a long time. With more research constantly going on, more information comes to light and could affect scoring.

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Old 27th October 2015, 17:44
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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

Hi Michael

Without a ot of research I cannot say with what type of aircraft each ace scored, however Lambert's total was only 103, Lang 170, and Sterr 108.

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Old 29th October 2015, 03:46
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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

The following entry should read:

Erich Rudorffer 170*

The asterisk is there for a reason.

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Old 29th October 2015, 18:30
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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

Hi Michael

Erich Rudorffer flew his first Fw190 on 16th April 1942. His first thirty-nine confirmed claims were flying the Bf109 numbers 40 until 207 were flying the Fw190, last twelve with Me262. Therefore a total of 168 with Fw190. He also had five other claims unconfirmed.

With Joachim Brendel I think his claims 10th until 130th were all with the Fw190, after that I do not know, so 121+ with Fw190.

With Sterr.....maximum of 93, perhaps less.

With Ademeit his first twenty-eight were with the Bf109. His total confirmed claims 160, therefore maximum, and likely total with Fw190 was 132.

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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

Hello,

the Rudorffer, Sterr and Ademeit stuff is understood.

Brendel transitioned from Bf 109 to Fw 190 and then back to Bf 109 again. However I ain't got no complete Brendel kill list so I can only make an approximation of the Bf109/Fw190 breakdown.

Can you tell me how many of Lambert's kills were scored in SG2 ?

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Old 31st October 2015, 04:10
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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

Hi Michael

It's impossibly to say how many of Lambert's claims were with SG 2 as SG 2's daily claims are largely missing from the micro films, however I would say the vast majority.

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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

Hello Johannes,

I though it were at least 84. But that was before the reduction of his total down to 103. Do SG77 or SG151 records list some of Lambert's kills ?

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Hallo Michael

Only fourteen of Lambert's claims are found on the micro films, all with II./SG 2. But his last on 17th April 1945 a Mustang was recorded on KBT papers as with III./SG 77. He should have been mentioned in dispatches for his "big days", but I have not actually seen copies of the dispatches myself, somebody else may be able to help you there.

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Re: Top Fw 190 aces

Hello Johannes,

is the Mustang on the last day of Lambert's life designated somewhere as his 103. kill ?
If not, how come we know his total wasn't 116 ?

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