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Johannes 22nd January 2018 06:16

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Hi Craig

I will check the Amerk numbers for Sterr's units, and there is a secondary microfilm listing only date and time, I'll check this to see if any additional claims. But it will be the same for all the pilots with his staffel, if their's all match so should Sterr's. Years ago I checked a claim for Günther Rall against this Date/time microfilm as it was missing from the main daily microfilm entries, and found three claims missing from this main mikrfilm, one of which matched Rall;s claim.

With Walter Schuck his 206 total is based only on Hermann Goring telling Schuck that an additional twenty-five of his previously unconfirmed claims have now been confirmed, personally I find this unbelievable, all twenty-five confirmed in one go

Franz Woichich is attributed with 110 victories, yet his own abschüße list has only eighty-two.

Regards

Johannes

knusel 23rd January 2018 12:43

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Hello Gentlemen,

thanks for your posts.
Personally, I consider the figures of Johannes most valid.
But I'm also very interested in how the "traditional" victory scores of the German WW2 originated.

Have a nice Tuesday,

Michael

Johannes 24th January 2018 05:24

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Thanks Michael

I could find no irregular amerk numbering i.e nothing appears to be missing for 6./JG 54.

With Werner Schroer the KBT papers during 1945 give his total as 114, yet the mikrofilms have several missing when they should be there, these are also marked as unconfirmed on his staffels abschusse board. Perhaps Sterr had six unconfirmed claims in addition to his 102 regarding previous e.mails.

Regards

Johannes

knusel 26th January 2018 14:41

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good afternoon Johannes,

what we need is something like a newspaper article announcing Sterr's death.
This should feature what they supposed Sterr's final total to be.

Have a nice weekend,

Miichael

knusel 1st May 2018 05:34

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good morning,

was Günther Josten flying a Bf 109 or an Fw 190 in the first week of April 1945 ?

Michael

Nick Beale 5th May 2018 08:37

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by knusel (Post 246580)
Good afternoon Johannes,

what we need is something like a newspaper article announcing Sterr's death.
This should feature what they supposed Sterr's final total to be.

Miichael

Happily there are extensive onlline archives of wartime newspapers from Germany and Austria for you to explore. Here are two:

http://anno.onb.ac.at

http://zefys.staatsbibliothek-berlin...x.php?id=start

Do let us know what you find.

knusel 9th May 2018 08:04

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good morning,

in OSPREY's "Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Aces of the Russian Front" p96 there is a Fw 190 Eastern Front Order of Battle for 1 April 1945 (Post-Bodenplatte built-up) that does not indicate IV/JG51 as a Fw190 unit. Does that mean that that Gruppe was still using Bf109's on that date ?

Cheers,

Michael

knusel 15th July 2018 16:05

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good afternoon Gentlemen,

did Fritz Tegtmeier score his last (#146) kill in I./JG54 ?

Cheers,

Michael

Johannes 16th July 2018 11:53

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Hi Michael

I loose track of Tegtmeier 30th October 1944 when he made his 139th confirmed claim, however he was Staffelkapitän of 3./JG 54 until March 1945 when to joined JG 7, his claimed total of 146 Russian aircraft is likely to be true judging by what claims are known, I would therefore suggest he made seven further claims beyond the scope of the mikrofilms i.e very late 1944 or earlier 1945...….the winter of 1944/1945 to be exact.

Kind Regards

Johannes

knusel 18th July 2018 00:42

Re: Top Fw 190 aces
 
Good evening Johannes,

would you agree that he scored 23 Bf109 kills and 123 Fw190 kills ?

Kind regards,

Michael


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