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Tim O. 11th December 2017 15:15

Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Hi all

I am going through a Flugbuch relating to 5./SKG 210 and have found a couple of references in late 1941 to air battles with 'J 18'. I cannot find any reference to this aircraft type and wondered if anyone can identify what this might be.

Any help will be much appreciated.

Rottler 11th December 2017 16:14

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Hello Tim,

there were different designations for the same type. In this case I-200, I-17 and I-18 for MiG-1.
Source: JFV part 6/I page 11.

Regards
Leo

Tim O. 11th December 2017 16:50

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Thanks Leo. Unfortunately I know next to nothing about Russian aircraft!

Nick Beale 11th December 2017 17:27

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
It might also have something to do with how things sound in German. I've seen Yak-1 (as it would be in English) reported as Jak-1 for example, and Jl-2 for Il-2.

Rasmussen 11th December 2017 18:08

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 244016)
It might also have something to do with how things sound in German. ... and Jl-2 for Il-2.

This hasn't to do how sounds things in German --- J is the handwritten form of the letter I (and the printed J) and I is the printed form of the letter I.

Tim O. 11th December 2017 18:39

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Thanks again gentlemen.

Nick Beale 11th December 2017 19:05

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasmussen (Post 244019)
This hasn't to do how sounds things in German --- J is the handwritten form of the letter I (and the printed J) and I is the printed form of the letter I.

And in the case of Jak/Yak … ?

Tim O. 11th December 2017 19:30

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 244021)
And in the case of Jak/Yak … ?

Hi Nick

For what it is worth, my experience is also that a number of spellings in Flugbuche reflect German phonetics, particularly Russian place names, which can almost magically appear if we replace J with Y and Z with TS, etc.

Kaczmarek 11th December 2017 19:41

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Sometimes the search function helps, too.

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?p=164570

Tim O. 11th December 2017 19:45

Re: Luftwaffe Designation for Russian Aircraft as 'J-18'
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaczmarek (Post 244026)
Sometimes the search function helps, too.

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?p=164570

Thanks Kazmarek but it was the J reference that threw me.


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