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lancaster103 8th December 2021 10:44

info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
Looking for information about Fockewulf Fw190A3 crashed in the vicinity of Vinkel near Den Bosch,The Netherlands. Aircraft crashed otr crashlanded 7 August 1942. Werkenummer 2213 unit IV/JG1. Who was the pilot and did he survived the crash??? Any info is more than welcome.
Thanks,
Adrian

Snautzer 8th December 2021 10:54

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
https://verliesregister.studiegroepl...rea=&airfield=

Leendert 8th December 2021 11:25

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
Conflicting information? See https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/52631
Perhaps JG 1 experts can tell more.

Winkeln and Hardt are on west side of Mönchen-Gladbach.

Regards,
Leendert

Chris Goss 8th December 2021 11:25

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
It would appear the pilot survived without any injuries hence his name was not recorded

Snautzer 8th December 2021 11:36

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leendert (Post 313488)
Conflicting information? See https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/52631
Perhaps JG 1 experts can tell more.

Winkeln and Hardt are on west side of Mönchen-Gladbach.

Regards,
Leendert

132213
Thats wrknr 132213 not 2213

Leendert 8th December 2021 11:51

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
Then quite coincidental with info about Wnr. 2213 and Wnr. 132213, apparently both belonging to IV/JG1, crashing on the same day....
Actual loss cards for both may give the answers.
Vinkel and Winkeln mixed up?

Regards,
Leendert

lancaster103 8th December 2021 13:11

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leendert (Post 313492)
Then quite coincidental with info about Wnr. 2213 and Wnr. 132213, apparently both belonging to IV/JG1, crashing on the same day....
Actual loss cards for both may give the answers.
Vinkel and Winkeln mixed up?

Regards,
Leendert

Hello Leendert,

That will making any sence and have not a thought about this!! I have asked around in the village and hist soc and no one could confirm this. It looks like that indeed Winkeln and Vinkel mixed up. I don't know the source for the info about the crash at Vinkel. Thank you very much (also Schnautzer, Chris) for your participation. Cheers, Adrian

lancaster103 8th December 2021 13:18

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
stated on https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/52631 that IV/JG1 was stationed at München Gladbach. Found on the web that this unit was based at Woensdrecht. Any clues??

Regards and again many thanks,
Adrian

Merlin 8th December 2021 14:18

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
During August 1942 the unit bas based at:
Stab and 12.Staffel Münchengladbach
10.Staffel Schiphol
11.Staffel Bergen op Zoom.

Jim P. 8th December 2021 20:10

Re: info sought about FW190A3 crashed 7 August 1942 in Holland
 
WNr. 2213 and 132213 refer to the same machine - it all depends from where you find the loss information. Prior to 1943 the losses were generally reported by the LW with, at most 4 digits, i.e. 2213, whereas a lot of published sources like to tack on a leading digit or two to give a 5 or 6-digit WNr. An FW 190A-3 might show up as WNr. 132213, 32213 or 2213 - all usually referring to the same machine. If it had been an A-2? WNr. 122213, 22213 or just 2213. It can all be quite confusing for the A-2s and A-3s. (There can be similar issues with A-4s, A-5s and A-6s too.)


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