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PMoz99 15th March 2018 12:04

Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Hermann Jochems spent over 2 years of the war flying recon missions for Stab./StG2/SG2. On 20 August 1944 his ju87D-5 forced down behind the Russian lines and he was taken prisoner.
Aircraft on-hand records show the only D-5 losses for SG2 in August were 24 from III. Gruppe and 1 from 10. Staffel.
Can someone please tell me the codes, if known, for the D-5 he flew that day?
Thank you
Peter

Matti Salonen 15th March 2018 12:32

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
1944-08-20, 4.(F)/11, Ju 188 D-2, 150224, 6M+DM, Bei Baranowitschi
Flugzeugführer Olt Jochems, Hermann, gefangen
Beobachter Hptm Bock, Albert, gefangen
Bordfunker Ofw Gruber, Friedrich, vermißt
Bordschütze Uffz Stillger, Bruno, vermißt
Bordschütze Gefr Westphal, Werner, vermißt
Notlandung infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %. Start 08.22.

Matti

PMoz99 15th March 2018 12:59

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Thank you very much, Matti.
This is a surprise. I was wondering how one could fly long-range recon in a Ju87, but that's the only a/c I (thought I) knew he flew. There's not much information about Recon units readily available.
Was part of 4.(F)/11 attached to SG2, or is the information that Jochems was with SG2 wrong?
Thanks again!
Peter

Merlin 15th March 2018 14:27

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Hermann Jochems was since autumn 1938 a pilot in the Stabsstaffel/StG 2. That was a reconnassance unit equipped with the Do 17 and later the Bf 110. The unit was disbanded in June 1943 and in April 1944 Jochems became the pilot of Hptm. Bock, who was the Staffelkapitän of 4.(F)/11. Albert Bock had also been a long-standing member of Stabsstaffel/StG 2.

PMoz99 16th March 2018 03:48

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Thank you very much Gerhard for the invaluable information, and the lesson that what one reads on the internet, even from otherwise reliable sources, must always be taken very carefully as it could well be some way from the truth!
Peter

Pawel Burchard 16th March 2018 06:30

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
1 Attachment(s)
Attached is scan from 4./11 Kriegschronik.

regards,
Pawel

PMoz99 16th March 2018 07:20

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Thank you Pawel. A nice addition to my Jochems file.
Peter

Dan History 17th March 2018 12:29

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Gentlemen, see http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?p=249308 . Pawel, you have a private message.

Almer017 19th March 2018 08:53

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 249215)
1944-08-20, 4.(F)/11, Ju 188 D-2, 150224, 6M+DM, Bei Baranowitschi
Flugzeugführer Olt Jochems, Hermann, gefangen
Beobachter Hptm Bock, Albert, gefangen
Bordfunker Ofw Gruber, Friedrich, vermißt
Bordschütze Uffz Stillger, Bruno, vermißt
Bordschütze Gefr Westphal, Werner, vermißt
Notlandung infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %. Start 08.22.

Matti

Hello, Matti!
I'm historian of aviation from Belarus.
In my article in "Aviation and Astronautics" russian magazine
this craft is shot down by Semenov/Mitsenkov 439 IAP PVO from Baranovichi airfield. (Dmitry Kienko, almer@tut.by )

Almer017 29th March 2018 14:25

Re: Hermann Jochems Ju87D-5 codes question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 249215)
1944-08-20, 4.(F)/11, Ju 188 D-2, 150224, 6M+DM, Bei Baranowitschi
Flugzeugführer Olt Jochems, Hermann, gefangen
Beobachter Hptm Bock, Albert, gefangen
Bordfunker Ofw Gruber, Friedrich, vermißt
Bordschütze Uffz Stillger, Bruno, vermißt
Bordschütze Gefr Westphal, Werner, vermißt
Notlandung infolge Motorbrand. Bruch 100 %. Start 08.22.

Matti

Hello, Matti!
Thanks for the info, I found this plane on the site of the fall a few years ago.
Does anyone have information about losses of distant reconnaissance crews Ju-88 (Ju-188) over Belarus?

21.08.44
25.08.44

Dmitry Kienko
Minsk


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