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Brian Bines 13th September 2007 14:17

Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
I believe the crew of U5+EG Fw. Werner Benner and Uffz. Hermann Reimers are shown as dead rather than missing. Is there a record of where they were recovered and buried please. Their loss may link to the claim of Capt, Rad of 85 Sqd. who shot a 410 down off Southwold? (pos.G81) at 0240hrs and reported both crewmen as baling out,

thanks

Brian Bines

Peter Kassak 13th September 2007 18:24

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Bines (Post 50454)
I believe the crew of U5+EG Fw. Werner Benner and Uffz. Hermann Reimers are shown as dead rather than missing. Is there a record of where they were recovered and buried please. Their loss may link to the claim of Capt, Rad of 85 Sqd. who shot a 410 down off Southwold? (pos.G81) at 0240hrs and reported both crewmen as baling out,

thanks

Brian Bines

Nachname: Benner

Vorname: Werner

Dienstgrad: Feldwebel

Geburtsdatum: 10.12.1916

Geburtsort: Bochum

Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 25.08.1943

Todesort: Furnes
Werner Benner ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Lommel (Belgien) .
Endgrablage: Block 42 Grab 148

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No match for Reimers...:(
but maybe the name is mispelled??
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Brian Bines 14th September 2007 10:27

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Peter thanks for the information, as far as I know the spelling of the Bf's name is correct, another researcher has told me the notification of his death was in mid November,

Regards

Brian Bines

montana 14th September 2007 14:59

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Hi,

To my knowledge, the BF Uffz. Hermann Reimers is still missing. So I think he drowned in the North Sea and the pilot, Fw. Werner Benner, was rescued and died from his wounds in a Furnes hospital on the 25/8/43. If I can hazard this conjecture...

Rgds

Brian Bines 15th September 2007 19:07

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Hi,

Thanks for that,

Regards

Andreas Brekken 16th September 2007 20:54

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Hi, Brian

The loss record was never corrected, thus in the GenQu6Abt records these guys are still listed as missing.

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=112644

Regards,
Andreas B

Brian Bines 16th September 2007 21:29

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Thanks Andreas, if Cap. Rad reported two crewmen baling out off Southwold it seems unlikely he shot U5+EG down if Benners died at Furnes on the 25th. Benners may then have fallen to F/L Goodman who claimed a 410 at 0250 hrs. off the French coast near Dunkirk. As far as I can tell this leaves crew off Oblt. Schmitter rescued off Zeebugge possibly falling to S/L Arbon who claimed a 410 off Knokke at 0300hrs.and crew of Ltn Barzett ( body of Bf Uffz. Hartmann recovered 19-10-43 ) who either fell to Cap. Rad at 0245 hrs. or W/C Mack who claimed a 410 off Manston at 2315 hrs. These three 410's are shown as lost on the 24th which I understand to be the early morning of the 24th which would seem to link to the RAF claims,

Regards

Brian

Andreas Brekken 17th September 2007 07:37

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Hi.

The following Me 410 losses are registered by K.G.2 on 23rd and 24th August 1943:

23rd:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118744

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118745

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118746

24th:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118747

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118748

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118749

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=112644


Regards,
Andreas B

Brian Bines 17th September 2007 10:17

Re: Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Thanks Andreas, a great help,

regards

Brian

Luc Vervoort 19th September 2007 20:36

Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943
 
Hi !

Is Oblt.Schmitter the same person as Major Schmitter who was shot down on 9/11/1943,flying U5+BF (see Auf Himmel zu Hause website http://www.aufhimmelzuhause.com/id101.htm) ?

Best regards

Luc


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