Me 410 loss 23/24-8-1943

[Brian Bines]

I believe the crew of U5+EG Fw. Werner Benner and Uffz. Hermann Reimers are shown as dead rather than missing. Is there a record of where they were recovered and buried please. Their loss may link to the claim of Capt, Rad of 85 Sqd. who shot a 410 down off Southwold? (pos.G81) at 0240hrs and reported both crewmen as baling out,

thanks

Brian Bines

[Peter Kassak]

Originally Posted by Brian Bines

I believe the crew of U5+EG Fw. Werner Benner and Uffz. Hermann Reimers are shown as dead rather than missing. Is there a record of where they were recovered and buried please. Their loss may link to the claim of Capt, Rad of 85 Sqd. who shot a 410 down off Southwold? (pos.G81) at 0240hrs and reported both crewmen as baling out,

thanks

Brian Bines

Nachname: Benner

Vorname: Werner

Dienstgrad: Feldwebel

Geburtsdatum: 10.12.1916

Geburtsort: Bochum

Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 25.08.1943

Todesort: Furnes
Werner Benner ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Lommel (Belgien) .
Endgrablage: Block 42 Grab 148

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No match for Reimers...
but maybe the name is mispelled??
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[Brian Bines]

Peter thanks for the information, as far as I know the spelling of the Bf's name is correct, another researcher has told me the notification of his death was in mid November,

Regards

Brian Bines

[montana]

Hi,

To my knowledge, the BF Uffz. Hermann Reimers is still missing. So I think he drowned in the North Sea and the pilot, Fw. Werner Benner, was rescued and died from his wounds in a Furnes hospital on the 25/8/43. If I can hazard this conjecture...

Rgds

[Brian Bines]

Hi,

Thanks for that,

Regards

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, Brian

The loss record was never corrected, thus in the GenQu6Abt records these guys are still listed as missing.

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=112644

Regards,
Andreas B

[Brian Bines]

Thanks Andreas, if Cap. Rad reported two crewmen baling out off Southwold it seems unlikely he shot U5+EG down if Benners died at Furnes on the 25th. Benners may then have fallen to F/L Goodman who claimed a 410 at 0250 hrs. off the French coast near Dunkirk. As far as I can tell this leaves crew off Oblt. Schmitter rescued off Zeebugge possibly falling to S/L Arbon who claimed a 410 off Knokke at 0300hrs.and crew of Ltn Barzett ( body of Bf Uffz. Hartmann recovered 19-10-43 ) who either fell to Cap. Rad at 0245 hrs. or W/C Mack who claimed a 410 off Manston at 2315 hrs. These three 410's are shown as lost on the 24th which I understand to be the early morning of the 24th which would seem to link to the RAF claims,

Regards

Brian

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

The following Me 410 losses are registered by K.G.2 on 23rd and 24th August 1943:

23rd:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118744

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118745

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118746

24th:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118747

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118748

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=118749

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=112644


Regards,
Andreas B

[Brian Bines]

Thanks Andreas, a great help,

regards

Brian

[Luc Vervoort]

Hi !

Is Oblt.Schmitter the same person as Major Schmitter who was shot down on 9/11/1943,flying U5+BF (see Auf Himmel zu Hause website http://www.aufhimmelzuhause.com/id101.htm) ?

Best regards

Luc