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Can anyone help me with info on this photo.
What I could read on the back is: Amerikanischer Flugzeug Holland Nov 1944, I think.

Ray

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Probably (99%) P-47D. 78 FG, 83 FS, 42-76587, belly landed 5 miles southwest of Goch September 18,1944, Lt. John Loegering POW.

From Gary Frys' excellent book on the 78th FG, Eagles of Duxford: The 78th Fighter Group in WWII. (Phalanx-1991)

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Thanks,

I googled this info and found two pictures. The markings are very differnt.

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The first pic you posted was as identified by Kaki ~ September-November crash site for a 78th FG P-47D. I'm away from my references so can't comment on the pilot of the crashed Jug.

The second pic is a very narrow time interval photo and drawing of the same P-47D between June 6 and approximately July 7-10, 1944. The D-Day invasion stripes were painted completely around the fuselage on the eve of D-Day and the 8th AF issued an order on July 7 to remove the top half of the fuselage stripes and the top of the wing invasion stripes.

All invasion stripes were removed in the late October to mid November 1944 timeframe.

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Ok that sounds logic.
Only thing bothering me then is that Gogh is Germany and not Holland.

Could it be that it fell just on the dutch side of the border a few miles away from Gogh?
Ray

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Hi Ray.
I would think that the information for the loss report has been taken from other pilots of that missions reports and that Gogh has been taken as the nearest town.

I don't know the exact location of the belly landing but the "5 miles SW of Gogh" given in the incident report ( # 5553) would , according to Google Maps, put the crash site just over the Dutch border.
MACR for this incident is # 9002

Hope this helps,
Nige

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Hello
SGLO nr T4131 says:
A/C crashed near Overloon.
It is indeed SW of Goch
Regards
Karl Lusink
ARGA