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KrisJG3 21st December 2012 12:26

Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
Dears ,
I have found following pictures, probably all from one the same wrack and there is Dog Tag - is it possible ID pilot and type of aircraft ? I think somewehere in Ukrain:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/fd5cff119656269

Is it Ju88 ?

More details:
Aufklarungsstaffel 1 (F)/33 , Dog Tag: 22/67188 , area: Kijew (village Moszczuna/Мощуна )
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread...=56833&page=28

BR

Kris

Matti Salonen 21st December 2012 14:12

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
1941-07-04, 1.(F)/33, Ju 88D-2, 880819, 8H+AH, Bei Orscha, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Psenner, Karl, vermißt
Beobachter Lt Neupert, Walter, vermißt
Bordfunker Fw Schütze, Richard, vermißt
Bordschütze Gefr Kässenich, Lucas, vermißt

Matti

KrisJG3 21st December 2012 22:44

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
Thanks ! I will try to write to collegues from V.B.G.O. - maybe They will be interested search pilots in this place and move on the cmentary( the same we just done with JG3 pilot Gunter Rabeler on Pommern in Poland)
:)

Ukrain , area Kijew - place: Moshchun / Мощун(а) ? See map N-W from Kijew

http://maps.google.pl/maps?oe=utf-8&...ed=0CDoQ8gEwAQ

Matti Salonen 22nd December 2012 08:43

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
One minor problem. EKM 67188/22 belongs to Gefr Lucas Kässenich and according to NVM this Ju 88D-2, WNr. 880819 disappeared near Orscha. Kiev is about 500 km south from Orscha. 1.(F)/33 was at that time located in Baranowicze/Misk and it would make sense, that reconnaisence flights were towards northeast Belarus. How Kiev would fit into the picture?

Matti

KrisJG3 23rd December 2012 16:35

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 159615)
One minor problem. EKM 67188/22 belongs to Gefr Lucas Kässenich and according to NVM this Ju 88D-2, WNr. 880819 disappeared near Orscha. Kiev is about 500 km south from Orscha. 1.(F)/33 was at that time located in Baranowicze/Misk and it would make sense, that reconnaisence flights were towards northeast Belarus. How Kiev would fit into the picture?

Matti

Look in Russian here is information > Kijev > in Мощуна probably guy have found there aircraft Ju88 / I think.

KrisJG3 25th December 2012 02:43

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matti Salonen (Post 159586)
1941-07-04, 1.(F)/33, Ju 88D-2, 880819, 8H+AH, Bei Orscha, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.

Matti

But here Ju88D-2 not exist on list ? Maybe Ju188D-2 ?
See:
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/aufkl/b1ag33.html

Details about unit 1.(F)/Aufklärungsgruppe 33:
http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/aufklg33.html

ArtieBob 25th December 2012 04:57

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
The 1941 date is too early for a Ju 188 D-2. The 880819 W.Nr. appears correct for a Ju 88 D-2. as is the period.

Best Regards

ArtieBob

Ruediger Kaufmann 25th December 2012 07:14

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
Hello Kris JG3,

I would send you a pm but your postcase is overrun.

Best regards

Rüdiger

KrisJG3 25th December 2012 11:19

Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)
 
Please sent to my on email:
Huball25@poczta.fm

Best Chrismats Wishes !
Kris


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