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Old 21st December 2012, 12:26
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Question Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

Dears ,
I have found following pictures, probably all from one the same wrack and there is Dog Tag - is it possible ID pilot and type of aircraft ? I think somewehere in Ukrain:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/fd5cff119656269

Is it Ju88 ?

More details:
Aufklarungsstaffel 1 (F)/33 , Dog Tag: 22/67188 , area: Kijew (village Moszczuna/Мощуна )
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread...=56833&page=28

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Old 21st December 2012, 14:12
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Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

1941-07-04, 1.(F)/33, Ju 88D-2, 880819, 8H+AH, Bei Orscha, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Uffz Psenner, Karl, vermißt
Beobachter Lt Neupert, Walter, vermißt
Bordfunker Fw Schütze, Richard, vermißt
Bordschütze Gefr Kässenich, Lucas, vermißt

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Old 21st December 2012, 22:44
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Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

Thanks ! I will try to write to collegues from V.B.G.O. - maybe They will be interested search pilots in this place and move on the cmentary( the same we just done with JG3 pilot Gunter Rabeler on Pommern in Poland)


Ukrain , area Kijew - place: Moshchun / Мощун(а) ? See map N-W from Kijew

http://maps.google.pl/maps?oe=utf-8&...ed=0CDoQ8gEwAQ

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Old 22nd December 2012, 08:43
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Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

One minor problem. EKM 67188/22 belongs to Gefr Lucas Kässenich and according to NVM this Ju 88D-2, WNr. 880819 disappeared near Orscha. Kiev is about 500 km south from Orscha. 1.(F)/33 was at that time located in Baranowicze/Misk and it would make sense, that reconnaisence flights were towards northeast Belarus. How Kiev would fit into the picture?

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Old 23rd December 2012, 16:35
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Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

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One minor problem. EKM 67188/22 belongs to Gefr Lucas Kässenich and according to NVM this Ju 88D-2, WNr. 880819 disappeared near Orscha. Kiev is about 500 km south from Orscha. 1.(F)/33 was at that time located in Baranowicze/Misk and it would make sense, that reconnaisence flights were towards northeast Belarus. How Kiev would fit into the picture?

Matti
Look in Russian here is information > Kijev > in Мощуна probably guy have found there aircraft Ju88 / I think.

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Old 25th December 2012, 02:43
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Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

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1941-07-04, 1.(F)/33, Ju 88D-2, 880819, 8H+AH, Bei Orscha, Unbekannt. Bruch 100 %.

Matti
But here Ju88D-2 not exist on list ? Maybe Ju188D-2 ?
See:
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/aufkl/b1ag33.html

Details about unit 1.(F)/Aufklärungsgruppe 33:
http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon/aufklg33.html
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Old 25th December 2012, 04:57
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Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Russia ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

The 1941 date is too early for a Ju 188 D-2. The 880819 W.Nr. appears correct for a Ju 88 D-2. as is the period.

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Re: Luftwaffe aircraft in Ukrain ? ID- Ju88 Kijew ? (Dog Tag)

Hello Kris JG3,

I would send you a pm but your postcase is overrun.

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