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Lennart Andersson 24th May 2013 16:38

Bf 109 WNr question
 
I would be interested to know the correct Bf 109 versions for the following constructor's numbers:

Are these Bf 109E?
972
1495
1572
1625
1713 (Bf 109G??)
2787
2945
3317 (Bf 109G??)
3444
3461
4870
5244
6442
6474
5015
Possibly also 875, 885 and 905

Are these Bf 109F?
7004
7026
7088
7534
13134
13220
13334
13340
13367
13383
13469

Are there Bf 109G (possibly G-6)?
14743
14801
14830

Are these Bf 109G-6?
161713
161717
161718
161720
161722
161728

/Lennart A

Marc-André Haldimann 24th May 2013 17:19

Re: Bf 109 WNr question
 
Hi there Lennart,

Here is what I can add regarding your questions:

W.Nr. 14743, 14801 and 14830 are all Bf 109 G-2's.

Bf 109 G-6:

W.Nr. 161713 "NP+XV", 13. JaSta:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585

W.Nr. 161717 "NP+XZ" "Biala 6", 13. JaSta:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585

W.Nr. 161718: certainly a Mtt-Regensburg built Bf 109 G-6, no other informations known.
W.Nr. 161720 "NQ+BC" "Biala 3", 13. JaSta, no known picture.

W.Nr. 161722 "Biala 1", JaSta 13.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585

W.Nr. 161728 "Biala 2", 13. JaSta.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585

Cheers
Marc

Matti Salonen 24th May 2013 17:26

Re: Bf 109 WNr question
 
Based on loss reports:

1) Others are Bf 109E, except 1713, which is either B-1 or D-1.

2) Others are Bf 109F, except 13469, which is Bf 109G-2.

3) All are Bf 109G-2.

4) All are Bf 109G-6.

Matti

Tom Willis 26th May 2013 21:51

Re: Bf 109 WNr question
 
Hi Lenart

I have the following
875 - 905 - 972 - 1495 - 1572 - 1625 - All Type E-4s
885 - Type E-3
1717 - Type B-1
2787 - Type E-3
2945 - Type D
3317 - 6442 - All Type E-7
3444 - 3461 - All type E-1s
4870 - 5015 - 5744 - All Type E

13134 - 13220 - 13334 - 13340 - 13367 - 13383 - 7004 - 7026 - 7088 - 7534 - All Type F-4s
13469 - Are you sure of W/Nr as my W/Nrs for the Type F do not go this far?

14743 - 14801 - 14830 - All Type G-2s

161713 to 161728 - All Type G-6s

Regards
Tom Willis

Bf 110 27th May 2013 00:04

Re: Bf 109 WNr question
 
Hello,

972 -> E-3 (Erla, Leipzig)
1495 -> E-3 (Erla, Leipzig)
1572 -> E-3 (Erla, Leipzig)
1625 -> E-4 (Erla, Leipzig)
1713 -> B (BFW, Augsburg)
2787 ?
2945 ?
3317 -> E-1 (AGO, Oschersleben)
3444 -> E-1 (Arado, Warnemünde)
3461 -> E-1 (Arado, Warnemünde)
4870 -> E-? (Arado, Warnemünde)
5244 -> E-3 (WNF, Wiener Neustadt)
6442 ?
6474 ?
5015 -> E-3 (WNF, Wiener Neustadt)
875, 885 and 905 all E-3 (Erla, Leipzig)

Source: "Die Jagdfliegerverbände der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1934 bis 1945" pt. 1 & 2

No responsibility is taken for the correctness of the informations provided. ;)

Regards,
Bf 110

Lennart Andersson 27th May 2013 18:30

Re: Bf 109 WNr question - now Slovak Bf 109s
 
Thanks for your help!

972
1495
1572
1625
1713
2787
2945
3317
3444
3461
4870
5244
6442
6474
5015
These were apparently among the 16 Bf 109E that were delivered to Slovakia in 1942. They were flown by a Slovakian pilot who was stationed at Majkop from 9 November 1942, I presume by the Slovak Letka 13. Apparently used aircraft, Bf 109E-1s, E-3s and E-4s, and possibly one Bf 109D.

7004
7026
7088
7534
13134
13220
13334
13340
13367
13383
These Bf 109F-2s were loaned to the Slovaks and operated by 13. (Slow.)/JG 52 from January 1943.

13469
14743
14801
14830
These Bf 109G-2s were operated by 13. (Slow.)/JG 52 from March 1943.

161713
161717
161718
161720
161722
161728
Bf 109G-6 aircraft that were operated by the Slovak Air Force in 1944. I do not know how many were handed over. One source says 15.

/Lennart A


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