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wotan 19th December 2005 23:06

3 109s claimed by Mustangs 27 May '44
 
On 27 May '44 Bud Anderson and his flgiht or 4 Mustangs were engaged initially by 4 109s. The 4 P-51s got the advantage and 3 109s ran while 1 climbed.

Anderson and his wingman (Skara) chased after the 3 running, the other 2 Mustangs went after the lone 109 that climbed.

The lone 109 was shot down, Anderson shot down 2 other 109s and the fourth 109 got away.

Andersons victory lists shows the 2 109s he claimed as shot down 'northwest of Strasbourg'.

You can read a version of this engagement here.

I am looking to identify the pilots and unit of the 3 lost 109s.

Thanks,

Wotan

John Beaman 20th December 2005 05:24

Re: 3 109s claimed by Mustangs 27 May '44
 
Possibly aircraft of JG 5 as at least two were lost in that vicinity.

kb 20th December 2005 05:41

Re: 3 109s claimed by Mustangs 27 May '44
 
II/JG27 was also in action in this vicinity.

wotan 20th December 2005 06:31

Re: 3 109s claimed by Mustangs 27 May '44
 
Thansk for the replies. I checked Tony Woods site for LW claims on this date.

In addition to JG 27 and JG 5 being in the area JG 53 made claims (one listed as near Strasbourg). Stab III./ JG 3 and elements of III./JG 54 have claims as well.

The times of these claims began at 12.15 (Fhr. Kurt Rüdiger - P-51 5-6000m @ 12.15) and end at 12.45 (Fw. Baumgert - P-51 8000m @ 12.45).

kb 22nd December 2005 04:42

Re: 3 109s claimed by Mustangs 27 May '44
 
II/JG53 lost 4 ME109s. II/JG27 lost 6. They intercepted a box of B17s and their P51 escort "southeast of Nancy".

I/JG5 reported it lost 7 pilots (not clear if KIA or WIA nor how many a/c).

III/JG3 lost 7 a/c and 3 pilots KIA. One of the KIA pilots had recorded 13 victories. He crashed near Gerardmer. Prien's unit history described the action as occuring around Colmar-Gerardmer area.


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