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DaveM2 28th March 2014 03:56

Loss of P-40K 42-10083
 
All

Does anyone know who was piloting this fighter when it force landed after combat on 10 November 1944, whilst serving with the 20 GvIAP?

TIA
Dave

Laurent Rizzotti 28th March 2014 09:48

Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083
 
There was once loss lists of the Aviation of the Northern Soviet Fleet online at this site: http://www.eismeerfront.com/eis_html/poteri.htm

They are no more available on the Net but I saved them.

For 10 November 1944, there is only one loss: a Kittyhawk of 78 IAP (not 20 GIAP) that crashed in Murmansk district. The pilot was Mladshii Leytenant M V Tischaev, and he was unhurt. The cause of the loss is accidental. At this date, the probability that a Soviet fighter would be shot down or crashed due to battle damage close to Murmansk was very low.

A pilot of 20 GIAP was killed the day before in the crash of his Airacobra on Vaenga-2 airfield. It was the only loss reported for 29 GIAP for the month, and the 78 IAP P-40 reported above for the only P-40 reported loss for the month too.

markjsheppard 28th March 2014 21:45

Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083
 
Dave

I had both 42-10083 and 42-10256 both lost on the same mission. Disoriented, loss of fuel and belly landing. Both recoveed and both now flying. Have small thumbnsil pics of the recovery somewhere and I am sure the pilots names were listed.

Will have a look as I wrote about both in the dim distant past.

regards

Mark

Found - not sure why different from Laurent. My info would have been via Rune.

29.09.43 P-40 SNo 42-10256 (Seq-No 1127) of 20 gvIAP disoriented after AB with four Bf 109 of JG 5, LoF, FoL lake 40-45 km S Iokonga. Pilot JLt I.I. Mikhajlov OK.


29.09.43 P-40K-10 US-Serial 42-10083, Sequence-No 954, belonging to 20 gvIAP (1 gvSAD), pilot JLt N.I. Aelkseev (OK). Disoriented after AB with four Bf 109s of JG 5, LoF, FoL lake 40-45 km S Iokonga, Kola peninsula.

DaveM2 28th March 2014 23:20

Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083
 
Thanks chaps, so seems my date is incorrect then, should be 29.09.43 and not 10.10.44!

Laurent, can you confirm anything on the earlier date?

TIA
Dave

Laurent Rizzotti 29th March 2014 00:53

Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083
 
No I can't confirm it, because my loss list covers only the Aviation of the Soviet Northern Fleet, to which belonged 20 IAP.

20 GIAP was another unit, depending from the 7 Air Army, and I have no data on it.

According to the loss list 20 IAP flew a mixture of Airacobra and Yak (-1,-7,-9) during the war, but lost no KIttyhawk/P-40.

DaveM2 29th March 2014 06:57

Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083
 
Laurent

Understood, thanks. No reason to doubt Mark's (Rune's) data.

regards
Dave


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