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Old 28th March 2014, 03:56
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Loss of P-40K 42-10083

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Does anyone know who was piloting this fighter when it force landed after combat on 10 November 1944, whilst serving with the 20 GvIAP?

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Old 28th March 2014, 09:48
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Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083

There was once loss lists of the Aviation of the Northern Soviet Fleet online at this site: http://www.eismeerfront.com/eis_html/poteri.htm

They are no more available on the Net but I saved them.

For 10 November 1944, there is only one loss: a Kittyhawk of 78 IAP (not 20 GIAP) that crashed in Murmansk district. The pilot was Mladshii Leytenant M V Tischaev, and he was unhurt. The cause of the loss is accidental. At this date, the probability that a Soviet fighter would be shot down or crashed due to battle damage close to Murmansk was very low.

A pilot of 20 GIAP was killed the day before in the crash of his Airacobra on Vaenga-2 airfield. It was the only loss reported for 29 GIAP for the month, and the 78 IAP P-40 reported above for the only P-40 reported loss for the month too.
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Old 28th March 2014, 21:45
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Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083

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I had both 42-10083 and 42-10256 both lost on the same mission. Disoriented, loss of fuel and belly landing. Both recoveed and both now flying. Have small thumbnsil pics of the recovery somewhere and I am sure the pilots names were listed.

Will have a look as I wrote about both in the dim distant past.

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Found - not sure why different from Laurent. My info would have been via Rune.

29.09.43 P-40 SNo 42-10256 (Seq-No 1127) of 20 gvIAP disoriented after AB with four Bf 109 of JG 5, LoF, FoL lake 40-45 km S Iokonga. Pilot JLt I.I. Mikhajlov OK.


29.09.43 P-40K-10 US-Serial 42-10083, Sequence-No 954, belonging to 20 gvIAP (1 gvSAD), pilot JLt N.I. Aelkseev (OK). Disoriented after AB with four Bf 109s of JG 5, LoF, FoL lake 40-45 km S Iokonga, Kola peninsula.
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Old 28th March 2014, 23:20
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Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083

Thanks chaps, so seems my date is incorrect then, should be 29.09.43 and not 10.10.44!

Laurent, can you confirm anything on the earlier date?

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Old 29th March 2014, 00:53
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Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083

No I can't confirm it, because my loss list covers only the Aviation of the Soviet Northern Fleet, to which belonged 20 IAP.

20 GIAP was another unit, depending from the 7 Air Army, and I have no data on it.

According to the loss list 20 IAP flew a mixture of Airacobra and Yak (-1,-7,-9) during the war, but lost no KIttyhawk/P-40.
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Old 29th March 2014, 06:57
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Re: Loss of P-40K 42-10083

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Understood, thanks. No reason to doubt Mark's (Rune's) data.

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