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ouidjat 8th June 2016 15:02

Me262 ID needed.
 
Hi Gents,

From "Facebook" without any source.
Can someone tells me where this machine has been found? Any data available?
Thanks for your comments.

Regards, Franck.

RolandF 8th June 2016 15:52

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
Might be WNr 111974, Weisse 8, at Innsbruck-Hötting.Part of JV 44 at this time it may have belonged to EJG 2 (yellow fuselage band).

Regards

Roland

David E. Brown 8th June 2016 17:46

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
Hi Roland,

The visible hakenkreuz style indicates that this was an aircraft from the later 500xxx werknummer series. I do agree with you that the location looks like Innsbruck-Hötting and that this was a machine from III.EJG 2. New photo to me!

Cheers,

David

Dan O'Connell 8th June 2016 23:04

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
New photo to me, thank you.

ouidjat 9th June 2016 09:26

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
Hi Gents,

Thank you very much for your comments.
Yes, looks like Hötting. I didn't know there was a "Weisse 8"...
Another photo of the same machine. Source unknown (Well, "internet"; maybe a Czeck forum ...)
Regards, Franck.

RolandF 9th June 2016 09:51

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
Yes, David,
the camouflage on fuselage and tail point to a WNr 500xxx (= "Stauffen"-Regensburg-Obertraubling) jet. But I have a list containing the Me 262s found at Hötting and white 8 is connected with the abovementioned WNr.

Regards

RolandF

ouidjat 9th June 2016 10:25

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
OK, Dan's book page 145.

Nick Beale 9th June 2016 11:02

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RolandF (Post 219467)
Yes, David,
the camouflage on fuselage and tail point to a WNr 500xxx (= "Stauffen"-Regensburg-Obertraubling) jet. But I have a list containing the Me 262s found at Hötting and white 8 is connected with the abovementioned WNr.

Regards

RolandF

Does that list include the other types found, such as the Ju 87s and Fw 190s?

RolandF 9th June 2016 13:34

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
Unfortunately no. The jets seem to have been the main interest.

Regards

RolandF

David E. Brown 10th June 2016 05:09

Re: Me262 ID needed.
 
Hi Roland,

Well, personally I would trust the photos more than the list.

I've compared the images of this machine against photos of known 1118xxx-11199x machines and this kite wears a demonstrably different camouflage and markings scheme. I believe it probable that the werknummer was transcribed correctly from a machine there but incorrectly matched to this aircraft. Indeed, the (in)famous 26 April 1945 München-Riem Me 262 listing has a number of obvious transcription errors. For example, the JV 44 machine WNr.111074. That werknummer does not fit into the sequence of the 111xxx-series. But 111704 certainly does. An Me 262 A-1a was found at Bad Aibling with this werknummer visible in a photo, and, its verbandkennzeichen "White 7".

I believe that WNR.111974 is a valid werknummer and better fits another aircraft found at Innsbruck-Hötting, but not this one.

Cheers,

David


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