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Bruce Lander 4th October 2006 16:02

Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
Hi
The pilot's of 802 Sq.FAA from HMS Audacity made several claims against Fw.200's during late 1941:-

21.7.41 - S/Lt Patterson & S/lt Fletcher - 1 Fw.200

8.11.41 - Lt.Cdr.Wintour & S/Lt Hutchinson - 1 Fw.200
( Wintour killed by return fire)
S/Lt Brown - 1 Fw.200
S/Lt Lamb - 1 Fw.200 Dam

18.12.41- Lt.Cdr Gibson & S/Lt Hutchinson - 1 Fw.200 Dam

19.12.41 - S/Lt Brown - 1 Fw.200
S/Lt Lamb - 1 Fw.200 Dam
S/Lt Sleigh - 1 Fw.200

Can anyone supply details of Fw.200 losses to tie up these claims


Bruce Lander

David Pausey 4th October 2006 17:46

Re: Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
Hi Bruce

21.7.41 - S/Lt Patterson & S/lt Fletcher - 1 Fw.200
No loss that I know of on this date.
FW200C-3/U4 W.Nr 0078 F8+EL was lost on the 21-9-41.

8.11.41 - Lt.Cdr.Wintour & S/Lt Hutchinson - 1 Fw.200
( Wintour killed by return fire)
S/Lt Brown - 1 Fw.200
S/Lt Lamb - 1 Fw.200 Dam
FW200C-3 W.Nr 0083 F8+ZL

18.12.41- Lt.Cdr Gibson & S/Lt Hutchinson - 1 Fw.200 Dam

19.12.41 - S/Lt Brown - 1 Fw.200
S/Lt Lamb - 1 Fw.200 Dam
S/Lt Sleigh - 1 Fw.200
FW200C-3/U4 W.Nr 0086 F8+IH

All FW200's were from KG40 do not know staffel or crew names hope some one can fill in the gaps.
Regards
David

RT 4th October 2006 18:03

Re: Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
The pilot's of 802 Sq.FAA from HMS Audacity made several claims against Fw.200's during late 1941:-

21.7.41 - S/Lt Patterson & S/lt Fletcher - 1 Fw.200

21.7.41 - S/Lt Patterson & S/lt Fletcher - 1 Fw.200
No loss that I know of on this date.
FW200C-3/U4 W.Nr 0078 F8+EL was lost on the 21-9-41.

1 LOST each foll. Days 17/18/19/23. nd 24. july




8.11.41 - Lt.Cdr.Wintour & S/Lt Hutchinson - 1 Fw.200
( Wintour killed by return fire)
S/Lt Brown - 1 Fw.200
S/Lt Lamb - 1 Fw.200 Dam
FW200C-3 W.Nr 0083 F8+ZL

the 6 crew members hv been saved+prisoneers do you know location circunstances…




18.12.41- Lt.Cdr Gibson & S/Lt Hutchinson - 1 Fw.200 Dam

No known loss

19.12.41 - S/Lt Brown - 1 Fw.200
S/Lt Lamb - 1 Fw.200 Dam
S/Lt Sleigh - 1 Fw.200
FW200C-3/U4 W.Nr 0086 F8+IH

Off portugal ?? 6 crew missing


remi

Chris Goss 4th October 2006 18:25

Re: Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
Agreed-Patterson & Fletcher's kill was 3/KG 40 Lt Georg Schaffranek & crew all killed 21 Sep 41
8 Nov 41' s kill by Eric Brown was 3/KG 40 Oblt Karl Krueger & crew all killed
18 Dec 41 nothing
19 Dec was another 3/KG 40 aircraft Oblt hans -Joachim Hase & crew killed

Bruce Lander 9th October 2006 10:16

Re: Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
Hi Guys
thanks -as always first class response with information requested
Bruce Lander

Bruce Lander 9th October 2006 22:37

Re: Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
Hi Guys
looking further into the 802 Sq claims it eems possible that a little optimism or double claiming occurred, understandable in the conditions the combats were fought in-cloudy etc.
It seems possible that the FW.200 claimed by Hutchinson on 8 Nov which shot down Wintour may have escaped as he reported it going down in flames! not hitting the sea - did any KG40 aircraft report shooting down a Martlett ?-was it not damaged as severely as Hutchinson thought and was it later shot down by Brown ?
On 19 Dec did the Fw.200 claimed by Brown go down ? he made the claim in the morning, Sleigh reported scrambling at 11.30 hrs and certainly came back with part of the Fw.200 attached to his aircraft and reported the
Condor in the sea with acrewman out on the wing - was this the same aorcraft attacked by Brown?
The plot thickens
Bruce Lander

chris M89 12th May 2007 04:18

Re: Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 30095)
Agreed-Patterson & Fletcher's kill was 3/KG 40 Lt Georg Schaffranek & crew all killed 21 Sep 41
8 Nov 41' s kill by Eric Brown was 3/KG 40 Oblt Karl Krueger & crew all killed
18 Dec 41 nothing
19 Dec was another 3/KG 40 aircraft Oblt hans -Joachim Hase & crew killed

LTGeorg Schaffranek was my great Grandfather-he flew a Fokke FW 200 "Condor". Who knows something about him?I do not know so much, because most of our documents about him are lost...finding this forum was a big coincident- I have searched informations about him since years.Please help me...

russochief 27th January 2011 15:24

Re: Fw.200 losses Sep 1941 ,Nov 1941,Dec 1941
 
Hello Chris,

I think you told me that FW F8+IH was responsabile for sinking SS Dago March 15th 1942 in Peniche Portugal.

Is that right? because i read now of a possible lost of this FW in 1941?

Thanks and best.

Jorge Russo


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