Quote:
Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken
Hi, John
For your information a short list of persons listed as Staffelkapitäne with rank Leutnant (there are more):
Heinz Ebeling, 9./J.G.26
Eberhard Bock, 3./J.G.3
Heinz Berres, I./J.G.77
Willi Hörner, III./St.G.2
Friedrich Sellhorn, II./S.G.3
Georg Klauer, 1./N.S.Gr.2
Walter Kropp, III./J.G.301
Fritz Vinder, II./S.G.2
Heinrich Hackler, III./J.G.77
Hans-Ulrich Jung, III./J.G.3
I did not mean that you had to be a Tr.O. in order to become a Staffelkapitän.
Regards,
Andreas B
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Hi Andreas, you are totally right
I agree with the other the cracks of this forum, but:
In my opinion the original/former question were about the diffecence between a
Staffelführer
or a
Staffelkapitän
The discussion should not be led about if a none officer or if an officer had the special qualification, but:
If a Staffelkapitän was shot down and/or had problems during the combat(personal and/or technical) he had to be replaced by the
next best, in the most cases by the most experienced pilot - disregarding his rank -
There are so many examples for this theme already in this thread, so I do not want to multiply them.
One thing which may give us to think us about from veterans as Walter Schuck, whom I asked:
Staffelführer ... Staffelkapitän
who remembers about the last days of war:
Oberleutnant Hans "Waldi" Waldmannn was Staffelkapitän of the 3,/JG 7 until the 18th of March 1945.
Short afer a scramle on the 18th of March 45 in Kaltenkirchen/Hamburg, he collided with his co, Hans Dieter "Hadi" Weihs and his Me 262.
Weihs could land his damaged a/c, Waldmann lost his life.
After the death of "Waldi" Waldmann, the officials did not announce "Hadi" Hans Dieter Weihs to be the next after Waldi Waldmann,
because they did not trust simply the blank sheets of the "talks" of Mr. Hadi Weihs.
Hadi Weihs, surely was a good fighter pilot, but his reputation among the other "Aces" was not so high.
Anyway, the officials did not believe Hadi Weihs story of the real ongoings of the 18th of Aptil 45 and made him (unespected to me) not ... so ... responsible for the death of Waldmann.
Weissenberger ordered Walter Schuck to overtake the 3. Staffel JG 7 as a
Staffelkapitän on the 26th of March 1945.
In the meantime, a certain Oberleutnant Wagner was
Staffelführer of the 3./JG 7, before
Staffelkapitän Oberleutant Walter Schuck overtook the Staffel (3./JG 7) as as Staffelführer.
This is certified and true.
All the best, Horst