Some JG2 info from ULTRA

[RodM]

Hi,

this is just posted for anyone who may find the information useful...

from TNA, HW 5/694, CX/MSS/R.523/A/29

Communication, signed General Major WILKIE, dated 9/4:-

Request award of Iron Cross I to:-
Ltn. FRITZ BACHMANN, VII+ JG. 2, born
16/12/1919 in ZWICJKAU. Victories:-
1 Thunderbolt on 14/3/44.
1 Auster on 26/8/44.
1 Auster on 3/4/45.
1 Thunderbolt on 5/4/45.

Award Iron Cross on 15/10/43:
Uffz. RUDOLF GROSSAUER, JG. 2,
Born 11/1/1922 in LOHENSTEIN. Victories:-
1 Thunderbolt on 14/3/45.
1 Mustang on 5/4/45.
Also, 16 fight-bomber sorties, 12 low-level
attacks. Awarded Iron Cross II on 17/3/45.

Uffz. GOTTHOLD BAUER (Roman) II NA (smudge)1.
Born on 17/3/1924 in AUE-SAXONY.
25 flights against the enemy. Awarded
Iron Cross on 17/2/45.

NOTE: + As given, presumably in error for 7/JG. 2.
Personalities not previously reported or else merely
identified with JG. 2.

Usual disclaimer on accuracy of ULTRA information.

Cheers

Rod

[S Sheflin]

Great information Rod.

Do you think that the Uffz. Grossauer in your ULTRA messages is the Uffz. Großauer listed in the famous March 1945 Großostheim Kladde? That Uffz. Großauer was flying Fw 190 D-9 missions for 2./I./JG 2 on 45/03/18, 19, 20 (twice), 21, 22, and 23.

Steve Shefln

[Tom Semenza]

Rod,

Thanks for posting that info. Just a comment on Bachmann's claims. The first shown as occurring on 14.03.44 is found in Tony Wood's claims lists as actually occurring on 14.08.44. Along with the claim on 26.08.44, Bachmann is listed as a member of 3./JG 2. He was Staffelführer of 3./JG 2 in Aug. 44 until he was WIA on 5.09.44. Wood also shows a claim for a Lt. Bachmann of 1./JG 2 on 8.12.44 for a P-47. This claim is not listed in the ULTRA transcript.

Cheers,

Tom

[RodM]

Hi Steve/Tom,

thanks for the further info. I cannot comment further other to say that the ULTRA is quoted verbatim (warts and all), as I known absolutely nothing about Tagjagd operations!

Cheers

Rod

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by S Sheflin

Great information Rod.

Originally Posted by S Sheflin

Do you think that the Uffz. Grossauer in your ULTRA messages is the Uffz. Großauer listed in the famous March 1945 Großostheim Kladde? That Uffz. Großauer was flying Fw 190 D-9 missions for 2./I./JG 2 on 45/03/18, 19, 20 (twice), 21, 22, and 23.

Steve Shefln

I'd say yes on the basis that the Enigma machine's keyboard didn't include a "ß" (Esszett) or any letters with umlauts (ä, ö, ü) so the messages subsitute ss, ae, oe and ue for these characters.

So that's something else I must add to my guide to Ultra.

[Russell]

Hi Rod,

Anything that lists claims by day fighters from November 44 onwards is gold dust, as for your post I knew from other material in the National Archives that JG 2 had claimed on the 1945 dates mentioned but not who, now there are two names. Thanks very much.

Russell