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Old 28th June 2008, 17:48
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Oblt Günther Lüders 1.(H)/21

Could anyone confirm the loss details for Oblt Günther Lüders (DKiG).

Date sometime Aug43 (possibly 19th) flying FW 189A-2 (125294?; P2+DH)

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Old 28th June 2008, 19:38
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Re: Oblt Günther Lüders 1.(H)/21

Andy Luft.Qm Report of 23-8-43 ( Hard to read) shows 19-8-43 'F' shot down in Pl.Qu 5177 to Flakbeschuss - Fw189A2 P2+DH 125894 (the 8 is suspect) of NAGr.9 Ff Oblt Gunther Luders, B Hpt. Heinz Holzmann St.Kap. and Bs Ofw Erich Briewe all missing,

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Old 28th June 2008, 21:25
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Re: Oblt Günther Lüders 1.(H)/21

Hi Brian,

Many thanks for confirming the date.

Günther Lüders was awarded the DKiG 12Jul43 with 1.(H)/21 and served with the unit until Aug43.

Heinz Holzmann was Staffelkapitän 1.(H)/21 until Aug43. So the loss on the 19th ties in nicely with both individuals.

1.(H)/21 was sub-ordinate to NAGr. 9 at the time of the loss and the unit code given P2+xH corresponds to 1.(H)/21.

Many of the loss returns for nahaufklärungstaffeln often state the gruppe the unit was sub-ordinate to rather than the staffel itself.

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Re: Oblt Günther Lüders 1.(H)/21

Could anyone tell me if Günther Lüders was the recipient of the EP
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Yes-as Lt 22 Feb 43
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