Oblt. Greiner's victory on 2/5/1944

[montana]

Hi all,

I would like to know whether somebody has information concerning the 24th victory of Oblt. Georg-Hermann Greiner (11./NJG 1) on 2/5/1944 (combat report or witness report). He claimed this victory at 00.15 h. at 15 km S. of Brussels, thus near Braine-l'Alleud. Many thanks for your help in anticipation.

Rgds.

[David P. Williams]

Hi,

I have Georg Greiner's victories timed as 00.28 and 00.36 hours on 02.05.44, both of which he claimed/identified were Halifaxes involved in raids on railway yards at Ghislain and Malines in Belgium.

I know for a fact he doesn't have his log books or copies of any of his victory reports, and his memory for individual claims is not good.

All the best,

[Alain57]

Hi Gentlemen,

I have Halifax LW-415 - 429 Sqdn - 00.36 hrs near Bevere-Meerschaert Belgium and HX-347 - 10 Sqdn at 0028 hrs near Eppegem Belgium

Alain

[montana]

Hi David & Alain,

Thanks for your help. I know Greiner is still alive, but it is really a pity he lost all his combat reports and his log book.

Rgds.

[David P. Williams]

I will be speaking with Georg over the next few days, i will ask him about the log book. I believe he gave it away sometime during the 60s or 70s. I have a copy of his first log book, but this only goes up to the end of 1942. I will ask him about the second log book and see if he can remember to whom he gave it. All the best,

[WayneIvey]

I am attempting to locate Georg-Herrmann Greiner of Wangen Germany or his wife Helga or son Michael. I am his son-in-law and father of his three grand-daughters. (813)625-1105

[Larry deZeng]

Have you checked the German phone books? They are available on-line.

GREINER, Hermann. (DOB: 02.01.20 in Heidenheim/Brenz). (RE, DKG). 01.10.38 entered the Luftwaffe. 03.39 began schooling: attended Aufklärungsschule at Grossenhain, Blindflugschule at Neuburg-Donau, Zerstörerschule 2 at Memmingen, JFS 2 at Schleissheim and Nachtjadgschule at Stuttgart-Echterdingen. 30.10.39 received pilot’s licence. c.11.39 attended FFS C at Alt- Lönnewitz. 09.41 finished schooling. 01.10.41 Lt. trf II./NJG 1. 01.42 trf to 4./NJG 2. 01.04.42 promo to Oblt. 06.42 in IV./NJG 1. 07.10.42 with 11./NJG 1. 23.11.42 began training with Nachtjagdschule 1. 19.05.43 trf to 10./NJG 1. 01.09.43 Oblt., appt Staka 10./NJG 1 (to 01.03.44). 04.10.43 appt Staka Luftbeobachter-Erprobungstaffel of I./NJG 1. 02.12.43 returned to 10./NJG 1. 28.02.44 Oblt., awarded the Ehrenpokal. 01.03.44 appt Staka 11./NJG 1 (to 03.11.44). 29.03.44 Oblt., awarded DKG, 10./NJG 1. 01.06.44 in IV./NJG 1, promo to Hptm. 27.07.44 Oblt., Staka 11./NJG 1, awarded Ritterkreuz. 04.11.44 Hptm., appt Kdr. IV./NJG 1 (to 08.05.45). 05.03.45 WIA. 07/08.03.45 severely WIA over the Eifel area. Spent remainder of war in hospital. 17.04.45 Hptm., awarded Eichenlaub. Credited with 204 combat missions and 51 air victories, all but 4 at night. 1946-57 studied law and became a sales representative for a textile factory. 08.57 joined the Bundesluftwaffe with the rank of Hauptmann. He served 17 years rising to the rank of Oberstleutnant. 1972 retired. He has lived in Wangen since 1980.

[David P. Williams]

Hi WayneIvey,

I will telephone you tomorrow morning and i'll help if i can. Georg is still at the same address.

Cheers,

David.

[Leo Etgen]

Hello guys

Just one question: would anyone have the usual loss list information for the aircraft he was shot down in on 12 September 1944 while flying with the Gruppenstab of IV./NJG 1? Although able to crash-land the fighter at Dortmund his crewman Oberfeldwebel Kissing was killed in the attack. Many thanks.

Horrido!

Leo

[montana]

Hi all,

Definitively the Halifax shot down at 00.28 h did not crash at Eppegem, but at Braine-l'Alleud. The only surviving crew member, Sgt James T.H. Burton from 10 Sqn, parachuted down in the garden of a house in Braine-l'Alleud, some 15 km S. of Brussels.