Neubiberg, May 1945

[CJE]

Which second Gruppe of a Schlachtgeschwader was at Neubiberg on 8 May 1945?

I have two contenders:
- Part of II./SG 2 fled to the West from Kummer-am-See (Mimoň-Hradcany) on the last day of the war.
- II./SG 10 had been pulled out to the Munich area probably as early as the second week of March to train (at least one Staffel) on Panzerblitz-equiped Fw 190 F-8s. Most of this Gruppe was withdrawn to Wels on 3 May.

I am no monomaniac on Fw 190 "Schlacht" versions, but I am currently writing a special issue (don't dream, it's in French!) on this particular subject for Aéro-Journal. Hence, the number of messages I have recently posted on this topic.

Thanks in advance.

Chris

[lumabe]

Hello,

Your attached image shows a Fw190 F9 WNr 440401 with an engine number 347763
and a green technical officer chevron painted on the side and a second groupe bar.

This plane was captured at Herzogenaurach May 1945. Some sources said it was from II/SG3 and some other from II/SG10.
Note: none bomb racks under the wings.

It was also tested by 56th Fighter Group after the war.

Best regards,

Lumabe.

[S Sheflin]

Lumabe,

I have made a decades-long study of the aircraft surrendered and abandoned at Fliegerhorst Neubiberg. You are correct regarding the Werknummer and Motornummer of the Fw 190 F-9 that Chris posted.

However, unless I am mistaken this aircraft was flown in to surrender with at least thirteen other Fw 190s at Neubiberg and not Fl.Horst Herzogenaurach. I have numerous photos of WNr. 440401 in which other aircraft known to have been photographed at Neubiberg are visible in the background.

If you have information to the contrary, I would love to correct my records.

Steve Sheflin

[CJE]

More of them with one bearing Gruppenkommandeur's markings.

[O.Menu]

Hi Christian.

Yellow nose band was for Luftflotte 4 and order of battle shows that late in the war only I./SG2 and full SG10 stay under Luftflotte4 command. So I believe that Neubiberg airplanes are from II./SG10.

On the other side, "yellow 8" and "chevron green2" pictured on a color film show previous markings (fuselage digit and 2nd group horizontal bar) covered with a green paint. So I believe they could be airplanes that II./SG2 gave to I./SG2 when they left...

Olivier

[CJE]

Merci.