Bf109G-6 WNr.16453

[ouidjat]

Hello there,

any available details concerning that plane? Thank you very much for your help.

Regards, Franck.

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi.

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_pub...?lossid=123973

Regards,
Andreas B

[ouidjat]

Aaaah,

Thank you very much Andreas.
But for me it's a G-6 produced by Me.Ag. Regensburg in DS+SA/SS batch.

Since you gave a name and a unit The Kracker list concerning Lt. Völmle, Dieter; Adj. III./JG26 is giving the following info:
WIA 29 July, 1943 in "Blue 2" by B-17 return fire 20 km NE of Kiel, , no AC disposition given. WIA a 2nd time, 18 July, 1944 during aerial combat in "White 19" with a P-47 of 373FG N of Dreux. WIFA a 3rd time, 28 August, 1944 when his "Black 9" engine failed and he was injured when he bailed out. Wounded a 4th time on 4 December, 1944, when his Bf 109K-4 Werk # 330413 "Black 8" was hit by AA fire and was severely damaged. He made a force landing near Zülpich.

And Blue 2 being a Bf109G-6, WNr.13153. Same date but not exactly the same plane

Regards, Franck.

[thenelm]

Welcome to the vagaries of the Gen.Qu. losses!! Bf 109F-4 WNr. 13153 was reported twice as a 100% loss!

Bf 109F-4/R1, 13153, Kranz, Oblt. Paul, , , 5., JG 77, schwarzes, 4 + -, , , 11-May-42, Reported missing due to Luftkampf. F returned., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.9; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IX.3, p.316; Prien, JG 77, II, p.1003, , Krim, 100%, F, , ,
Bf 109F-4, 13153, Mandel, Uffz. Richard, , , , JGr.Süd, , , , , 26-Jun-43, Killed in crash., , Lfl.3/FR, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #10)-Vol.18, , bei Fl.Pl. Salon, 100%, H, , ,

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by thenelm

Bf 109F-4, 13153, Mandel, Uffz. Richard, , , , JGr.Süd, , , , , 26-Jun-43, Killed in crash., , Lfl.3/FR, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #10)-Vol.18, , bei Fl.Pl. Salon, 100%, H, , ,

unit: 2./JGr. Süd, sign: red 22, crash 7 km northeast from Mallemort

Best wishes
Rasmussen

[ouidjat]

Aaaaaah... Effectively!

I did check one, not the second! OK thank you very much you three Andreas, Thenelm & Rasmussen.
I know what I have to change NOW!

But where did I load that picture?? One USAF dedicated site for sure... If I remember well that part was found in another place than the one given by Andreas. I did check for the internet site (P-47 one?) yesterday but my memory failed.

Regards, Franck.

[Stig Jarlevik]

Franck

Surely your attached photo says Wnr 16543?

Cheers
Stig

[ouidjat]

Yeeeees

I'm very sorry all... This happens to me daily when typing on computer. I'm very very sorry for the work I've given you.
....
Same question with 16543!! If you accept it, of course.

Best regards, Franck.

[ouidjat]

Ok Stig,

Whatever, my thread asked for a WNr.16453 and I got good answers and comments. Only the attached picture is not at the right place...
I'm going to open another thread.

Thanks Stig.

Warm regards, Franck.